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rrb1399 10-06-2019 06:06 PM

Missing the nitro
 
I gotta be honest I love my truggys and my buggy but I really miss my nitro monstah trucks it’s a shame I can’t buy a new losi truck and have the option for nitro I get the ease of use and all that but nitro is much more appealing and I honestly think nitro puts that spark in your head when you see hear or smell one I remember the first time I saw one in the snow and was in awe that was around 1991 fast forward to my first savage and it was just so exciting to prep and go out and run the wheels off the truck and now being back after a long hiatus due to adulthood it’s sad to see it’s pretty much gone is there still part support for any of the older trucks ? I’d buy used if I can atleast have part support

johnnydmd 10-07-2019 05:23 AM

T-maxx still has plenty of part support(and aftermarket too) and they still make them.

Kyosho is still pushing nitro, the Mad Crusher GP looks like and awesome solid axle nitro truck and has gotten terrific reviews.

HardBash 10-07-2019 06:17 AM

i only find good nitro cars here where i live by the Eshops locally scandinavia.
And Methanol is hard find here,
no one can ship this.

i need drive 3h to shop that sells this.

well if i did nitro i need buy like 12 gallons each time atleast when i drive there to buy methanol

i try stay to electric. need find nice combo

nitro was real power, and easy hear this also :)

electric is false, you need watch, you almost cant not hear what the E-car goes in speed or so either.
now i talk about bashing like self or one friend. Training / bashing

OH this was monstertrucks
sorry

buggys and truggys i see alot nitro here

JDMR 10-07-2019 08:28 AM

I understand I miss my revo 2.5r and my tmaxx 3.3 they were so fun

Lovestricken 10-28-2019 02:22 AM

Nitro
 
I'm actually in the market for a good old nitro monster. All I am finding are out of stock or discontinued. Anything worth while has now gone electric. I am kinda eyeballing the hobao mt sport plus nitro rtr. I have found they have a good part support... online that is. And a site that has them in stock at $505 which isn't bad. Wish I could find a new savage nitro but they are electric. It's a sad day lol. Have you found any good leads on this? I'm itching for some real 4 wheeling. I see trax still has the revo fyi but it's 1/10 scale. I'm looking for 8th myself.

Micah78 10-28-2019 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Lovestricken (Post 15535577)
I'm actually in the market for a good old nitro monster. All I am finding are out of stock or discontinued. Anything worth while has now gone electric. I am kinda eyeballing the hobao mt sport plus nitro rtr. I have found they have a good part support... online that is. And a site that has them in stock at $505 which isn't bad. Wish I could find a new savage nitro but they are electric. It's a sad day lol. Have you found any good leads on this? I'm itching for some real 4 wheeling. I see trax still has the revo fyi but it's 1/10 scale. I'm looking for 8th myself.

Just buy a good nitro truggy. I too love nitro monster trucks. You can get a truggy and have a lot of fun running it with Proline mulchers instead of track tires. If you really want the monster truck feel/handling, put monster truck tires on the truggy and get a smaller clutch bell. This will keep you from smoking the clutch shoes. Any 1/8 monster truck body can be put on a truggy as well. I know Savages and LST’s are cool 😎 I’ve had them and really liked them. But truggys are actually more durable, handle better, and they can run ANY nitro engine available because they don’t need a pull start/ drill start. Once you go bump box, you’ll wonder why you didn’t do it sooner. Nitro engines start so easy on a bump box and the engine choices are endless. I’m not against nitro monsters because I too really like them. In the end you can get the same driving experience only better in my opinion out of a truggy set up as a monster truck.

slick2500 10-29-2019 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Lovestricken (Post 15535577)
I'm actually in the market for a good old nitro monster. All I am finding are out of stock or discontinued. Anything worth while has now gone electric. I am kinda eyeballing the hobao mt sport plus nitro rtr. I have found they have a good part support... online that is. And a site that has them in stock at $505 which isn't bad. Wish I could find a new savage nitro but they are electric. It's a sad day lol. Have you found any good leads on this? I'm itching for some real 4 wheeling. I see trax still has the revo fyi but it's 1/10 scale. I'm looking for 8th myself.

The Hobao is the best thing I could find as well. I'm wondering if they will make a new version to match the new Hyper MT Plus II.

Lovestricken 10-29-2019 06:20 PM

I have the losi 8ight truggy and it is very fun. I may have to look into some aggressive tire combos.

Yeah the hobao plus 2 is unfortunately going to be electric only as of now.

Looks like we are out of options.

Micah78 10-29-2019 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Lovestricken (Post 15536660)
I have the losi 8ight truggy and it is very fun. I may have to look into some aggressive tire combos.

Yeah the hobao plus 2 is unfortunately going to be electric only as of now.

Looks like we are out of options.

Just get some MT tires for that truggy! It’s alot of fun! You just gotta make sure to gear down a little to save your clutch. It’ll still go just as fast because the MT tires are bigger around. Instead of buying another MT, get some big tires, ( like Trenchers) for that truggy. Then get a big nitro engine for it!! A .28 or .30! Wheelie city! My mill of choice is the LRP .30X. Not sure if it’s still around, but extra power is a lot of fun!😎

snowman49 10-30-2019 01:03 PM

it is really sad the decrease in Nitro MTs, have a few MGT's (3.0, .21, 4.6) and an LST1.5, my favorite trucks to run. luckily you can get parts still, but mostly ebay.
Savage- decent parts support, mostly going to be buying off ebay though. very popular truck so lots of parts trucks around.
MGT (.21-4.6)- so far the only items i had issues finding is parts for the .21 pro engine, and forward only conversions. (very simple to make though) mostly through ebay still. aluminum upgrades are mostly down to GPM and Integy, only thing id recomend going Al. on is the Hub carriers (does eat bearings faster though) and diffs, maybe shock towers too. (AE Rival is pretty close to the same, just chassis, and trans are different.)
LST- probably the best parts support still going for it because most of the parts are the same between the XXL, XXL-e etc. 20mm (LST-2) wheels are a hassle though, recommend swapping to 17mm. 420 series wheels/tires are 40 series with a 20mm hex. amain and horizon still carry most parts that would break.
T-maxx- still made, with what traxxas has been doing lately business-wise and the quality and price of their vehicles though i do not recommend. no longer the cheaper way to get into the hobby
Revo- same boat as the T-maxx
i know its HSP/exceed but the Mad Beast, i hear is actually really decent. (also sold by RD Logics as the "wolverine" )

Lovestricken 10-31-2019 06:17 PM

Well I pulled the trigger today and bought myself me first electric. Not proud of myself. I figured I would just get a cheap basher and spend the winter building the nitro mt of my dreams. Once I figure out what it is. But I picked up a arrma kraton 6s v4. What are some of your dream nitro mt?

Micah78 10-31-2019 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Lovestricken (Post 15537824)
Well I pulled the trigger today and bought myself me first electric. Not proud of myself. I figured I would just get a cheap basher and spend the winter building the nitro mt of my dreams. Once I figure out what it is. But I picked up a arrma kraton 6s v4. What are some of your dream nitro mt?

That pretty much kills this thread! Have fun with the Kraton! It should be a good truck from what I’ve read. Make no mistake, 6s will kill your diffs, unless you’re easy on the throttle. The power of electric is cool, after awhile it gets boring though. Nitro rules 👹😜

snowman49 11-01-2019 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Lovestricken (Post 15537824)
Well I pulled the trigger today and bought myself me first electric. Not proud of myself. I figured I would just get a cheap basher and spend the winter building the nitro mt of my dreams. Once I figure out what it is. But I picked up a arrma kraton 6s v4. What are some of your dream nitro mt?

electric is fun, just gets old after awhile for me. there is no getting it to tune after warming up, dialing the tune in then having the satisfaction of bashing on a good tune.
My dream MT is probably either the XTM X-Factor 2, or a Savage.
always wanted a savage but money and availability never lined up for me. first time i was looking for a savage i found what is now my MGT for 175$ on ebay and had been upgraded quite a bit. second time i was looking for one i ended up finding my LST1.5 for 150$. lol who knows what deal ill find next time when i look for a savage.

Lovestricken 11-01-2019 04:06 PM

Sounds like I need to look for a savage lol. Yeah just got this thing to play in the snow really... a savage is kinda what I am leaning on. They still have a good part availability. And yes nitro rules!!! I took it out in the snow last night. To be honest I do find it straight line fun but there is no throttle control. It's all or nothing and I really dont like that at all. Other then being a torque monster and quite for the Neighbors. I will take my losi truggy over this anyday.

Lovestricken 11-01-2019 04:07 PM

That and I never realized how expensive the batteries and chargers are for these things. I dont care what people say nitro isn't more expensive.

snowman49 11-04-2019 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Lovestricken (Post 15538238)
Sounds like I need to look for a savage lol. Yeah just got this thing to play in the snow really... a savage is kinda what I am leaning on. They still have a good part availability. And yes nitro rules!!! I took it out in the snow last night. To be honest I do find it straight line fun but there is no throttle control. It's all or nothing and I really dont like that at all. Other then being a torque monster and quite for the Neighbors. I will take my losi truggy over this anyday.

i do know that with the V4 Arrmas people where not liking the "new upgraded Spektrum radio system", which is kind of funny as its a spektrum shell that is running Futaba communication technology. alot of people were having issues with the controller being slow, or not responding to inputs at all randomly.
from what i head, definitely cant go wrong with a savage lol

SgtGoody 11-05-2019 08:19 AM

Am I the only one that actually misses T-Maxx? I loved that stupid thing my dog used to chase the shit out of it. I keep looking at a new one but cant bring myself to pull the trigger.

snowman49 11-05-2019 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by SgtGoody (Post 15540153)
Am I the only one that actually misses T-Maxx? I loved that stupid thing my dog used to chase the shit out of it. I keep looking at a new one but cant bring myself to pull the trigger.

lol might be, i had so many issues with mine, want to get one for nostalgia, but everytime i find a really good deal and about to buy it, i get pre-frustrated about it breaking before i own it. when it ran it was alot of fun, and i really like working on RC cars, but that truck almost made me leave the hobby. i got my MGT, got rid of the T-Maxx, havent really looked back, aside from missing the O.S. .18 CVR that was on it.
definitely going to say buy a used one for $100-200$ instead of the $400-$500+ for a new one, if you do decide to pick on up.

johnnydmd 11-05-2019 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by SgtGoody (Post 15540153)
Am I the only one that actually misses T-Maxx? I loved that stupid thing my dog used to chase the shit out of it. I keep looking at a new one but cant bring myself to pull the trigger.

Still have mine, still love running it. Very few of the factory parts remain at all, not because they broke(a few things did), more just addicted to aftermarket hopups. I don't really bash it, just run Monster Jam style courses on ballfields these days, racing the clock. Wish people still raced them, those were some fun times!

Lovestricken 11-08-2019 07:51 PM

I never owned a tmaxx but a couple friends did. Those things were always breaking down on them. The savage was always my dream truck..

Herrsavage 12-01-2019 01:42 AM

I too sort of faded away from nitro. I went from MTs to racing, because even though I didn't care about (in fact really quite disliked..) all the uptight competition(and incessant wrenching..), I was obsessed enough with nitro engines to just want to have the chance to run different kinds and in different conditions. Plus it was getting harder and harder to find cool spots to go bash around. I guess I figured a track was a ready-made bash spot. In reality it was a place for super uptight fun-killers to take it all way too seriously..

I do miss the MTs though. I'll always be nostalgic about my first Savage and LST2 - which I got almost fifteen years ago... (!!!) :weird::eek:

That was also a time when I didn't have the stressful job, family, weekend house, etc etc... Now I am more into flying,and like that I can just charge up 4-5 batteries and go out for an hour and have fun. Clean fun too - no silicone oil and grease and gunk all over your hands (electric or nitro.. - I see it as a difference of degree, not of kind.. I did some minor wrenching on my MT4 G3 and mini electric buggy last weekend, and my hands were filthy afterwards..) - and car, and house, etc.. Now that I live in a house and no longer in a flat, I would definitely have to get a high power air compressor to clean them...

Anyway, I still have my nitro RC8T, with boxes and boxes of parts and tires, plus the buggy, plus the SC8. I have an %80 running LST2 which would need a fair bit of work, but afaik the 454 motor in it stills runs well enough, as does the Nosram RS.30RR from my older truck, which I sold as a roller earlier this year... And oh yeah, the DM-1.. I meant to run them all this year, and charged up all my nimh starter batteries etc.., but never got around to it.. And now it's winter. :( I'll see what still works next year...

I just found myself looking into a new Arrma Kraton... But them I'm like, naa.. My Mt4 G3 still works well enough, plus I have nearly a second truck in spare parts - and I could get a new one for €300 or so instead of €500 for the Kraton... RC cars are such money pits.. I also have the Tamiya TRX801XT, which works fine, plus a whole spare kit.... I feel more like taking those out today than flying.... Hmm..



I would never have anything to do with Traxxas.

rrb1399 12-01-2019 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 15554386)
I too sort of faded away from nitro. I went from MTs to racing, because even though I didn't care about (in fact really quite disliked..) all the uptight competition(and incessant wrenching..), I was obsessed enough with nitro engines to just want to have the chance to run different kinds and in different conditions. Plus it was getting harder and harder to find cool spots to go bash around. I guess I figured a track was a ready-made bash spot. In reality it was a place for super uptight fun-killers to take it all way too seriously..

I do miss the MTs though. I'll always be nostalgic about my first Savage and LST2 - which I got almost fifteen years ago... (!!!) :weird::eek:

That was also a time when I didn't have the stressful job, family, weekend house, etc etc... Now I am more into flying,and like that I can just charge up 4-5 batteries and go out for an hour and have fun. Clean fun too - no silicone oil and grease and gunk all over your hands (electric or nitro.. - I see it as a difference of degree, not of kind.. I did some minor wrenching on my MT4 G3 and mini electric buggy last weekend, and my hands were filthy afterwards..) - and car, and house, etc.. Now that I live in a house and no longer in a flat, I would definitely have to get a high power air compressor to clean them...

Anyway, I still have my nitro RC8T, with boxes and boxes of parts and tires, plus the buggy, plus the SC8. I have an %80 running LST2 which would need a fair bit of work, but afaik the 454 motor in it stills runs well enough, as does the Nosram RS.30RR from my older truck, which I sold as a roller earlier this year... And oh yeah, the DM-1.. I meant to run them all this year, and charged up all my nimh starter batteries etc.., but never got around to it.. And now it's winter. :( I'll see what still works next year...

I just found myself looking into a new Arrma Kraton... But them I'm like, naa.. My Mt4 G3 still works well enough, plus I have nearly a second truck in spare parts - and I could get a new one for €300 or so instead of €500 for the Kraton... RC cars are such money pits.. I also have the Tamiya TRX801XT, which works fine, plus a whole spare kit.... I feel more like taking those out today than flying.... Hmm..



I would never have anything to do with Traxxas.

I said I would never buy traxxas either until I drove an xmaxx ! And it’s a complete different animal !


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