mini 8ight shock discussion
 

so who makes shocks that we could mount up to the mini 8ight
im thinking some other companys big bores may work but not sure yet any thoughts or feedback would be great

we already know that the Jammin SCRT10 front shocks will work front and rear on the mini 8ight. I really do think that the losi 22 buggy front will work on the front and rear of the mini 8ight as well. It would be nice if someone who has a 22 buggy could confirm for us.

I just bought ti nitride shafts for the stock shocks. I did not think they were bad?

Am I mistaken?

Thanks.

I want big bore style shocks for the buggy and I did not knew that I will investigate

The stock shocks are fine and more than adequate and the correct lengths. They also don't seem to leak.
You would be better off spending a few hours tuning your shocks for where you run or what you do and learning what you have to work with already. Big bores would be a waist of money for the mini 8 imo and I buy everything for mine. If you buy a set of aftermaket shocks you will need to do all tuning to even achive as good of setup as what the buggy comes with stock. That means selecting the right springs, pistons, fluid and mounting etc... you might get lucky the first time, but I doubt it.

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/w...118_115828.jpg

Does anyone know of where, or who makes pistons for these cars, I would like to play with different options as far as pistons go

hmmm all right maybe i will go to the nitride shafts and build em up and get proline shock caps and build stock shocks that have plenty of bounce absorption

I got these a long time ago. Ive been drilling my own pistons for a long time. There are other brands available, if you search drills. Almost all the fast guys re work their shocks because there is no one scenario fits all, in these rtr days most people dont even think about it. Your on your way. Make a log of F/R fluids and piston hole sizes and how you felt the car drove with each setup. I do this because its hard to remember the details later.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ston-Drill-Set

Yeah i've drilled pistons a few times. I am more curious as to if anyone knows of other brand car's pistons working, for example like AE b4.1 Biggest reason is RPM makes tapered 2 stage pistons, that I personally like a lot, just not too sure if they'll fit.

I know a guy that put some kyosho pistons in but you need to flat sand them to get them on the shafts. Im not sure what pistons they were but I'll try to find out next time I see him. I think reduced the dia also. I'll get back to ya.

this sounds interesting

I posted the information below in the huge LM8 thread but I am sure it will never be seen so I am also copying it here:

The Losi springs are really terrible. They vary from side to side and front to back A LOT. They measured all over the place as far as rates. Quality control seems to be a big issue when it comes to their springs. Good news is Kyosho Mini Inferno (Half Eight) springs are a direct fit and work awesome!! Almost all the guys that race locally are using them as am I. I didn't figure this out on my own - much smarter folks than me did and I am just relaying the info. I did some measuring to see the differences in the coil springs available for the Mini8 and my findings are below:
Spring.............................# Coils....Coil Dia.......Length........Bind......Ounce/Inch
Losi Stock Front (Black).........7.........0.047.........1.24...... .....0.39.........80
Losi Stock Back (Silver).........7 .........0.043.........1.52..........0.36......... 59
Losi Soft Front (Silver)...........7.........0.039.........1.24... ........0.31.........45
Losi Soft Back (Silver)............9.........0.039.........1.6... .........0.39.........35
Kyosho Stiff Front (White)......9.........0.048.........1.45......... ..0.5...........64
Kyosho Stiff Back (White).......9.........0.048.........1.67........ ...0.5...........65
Kyosho Medium Front (Blue)...11.......0.048.........1.45...........0.6 1.........54
Kyosho Medium Back (Blue)...11........0.048.........1.67...........0. 61.........53
Kyosho Soft Front (Red).........13 ......0.048.........1.45...........0.72.........43
Kyosho Soft Back (Red)..........13.......0.048.........1.67........ ..0.72..........45

Formatting really stinks so I tried make it somewhat readable

The Kyosho springs are not cheap but can be found all over the net. You can go to Ebay and search for "mini inferno spring" and all sorts of auctions will pop up. The Kyosho spring part numbers for thier kit is IHW15-1 (rear) and IHW14-1 (front). Atomic and 3Racing also make springs that will fit.

Personally - I drilled out my shock pistons slightly larger than stock and run 17.5 oil in both the front and rear. I'm running the red springs in the front and blue in the rear but change them from time to time depending on track conditions. I still have a lot to learn and there is a definite learning curve. The springs do make a huge difference though...

thanks man thats some good information now we are making some progress here

This is what I like to see...Great Information. I wonder if anyone here has used the Hot Racing Progressive springs? What are your thoughts on these springs?

I did test some progressive springs but they are kind of hard to quantify as far as spring pressures. I know there were a few folks who tried them but everbody eventually moved on to other spring options. I also tested some other springs but I'll have to ask the guy what kind they are before I post the information.

progressive springs would be very cool however i agree they are hard to quanitfy

Which Proline shock caps fit the stock Mini8 shocks?

Does it replace the shock eyelet with aluminum?

just call them up i dont have the model number on them...they just have them in stock i know that

Anybody got a fix for the front shocks not fully compressing?

The dog bones seem to be just a little long.

Caveman, check to see if the diff outdrives haven't loosened and unthreaded. This would move them out from the diffs. When rebuilding the diffs Loctite needs to be used on these screws or they will loosen up pretty quickly.

Hopefully this helps.

Thanks, but that is what I checked first. They are tight, and if you look in the outdrives you can tell the screw is back a ways.

I thought about drilling out each out drive just a little bit?

22 shocks will not work. I tried when I had both buggies at one point.

I posted this in the mini 8ight truggy thread as well...

Here's a shock update....

I recently went from the stock oil weight (30wt) down to 25wt and that made a difference as far as handling. A lot better, today I went down to 15wt oil and holy cow did that make this buggy handle so much better. I'm gonna try 10wt next and see how that goes, and yes I'm running these weight's front and rear. I'm also running the stock losi hard springs front and rear.

That is what I found also. But my springs are soft rear stock front. My mini 8ight is a little lighter though.

hmmm some good stuff here i will need to pick up some oils

When you do pick up 10wt, 15wt, and different rate springs and you'll be amazed. It is very surprising to me that Losi was so far off with there suspension setup. With 15 wt oil front and rear with hard springs front and rear it now makes the buggy a totally different car versus stock. the difference is night and day.

i cant wait to experiment with it

I run 17.5 in the front and 20 in the rear with HPI 18 coil springs in the front and cut down Losi pinks in the rear and WOW did it make a difference on the track..............

what kind of improvements did you see bigpopa

Where I noticed the biggest diferance was in cornering and jumping it almost turns in to good now lol. But when im running down long straights and let off going into a corner the front just sits down and lets the suspension set and gets good bite. Now when it comes to jumping it comes off the face of some big jumps at my track and flies perfectly flat in the air and lets me correct if needed. This setup is alittle on the soft side but to get this suspension to work right it has to be soft cause of how light these cars are.

Me and a buddy (Wallhugger) have been messing with different spring and oil setups cause the 2 tracks we run on are hard packed clay with ALOT of traction.....

hmmm sounds good i am watching some different shock oils that are at low bids on ebay to pick some up so I can modify my settings and to get some different springs for the shocks for the mini 8ight too

i'm not a racer on a track. just simple straight line driving and jumping. I have a roller coming in the mail. what springs come stock on the mini 8ight.

I plan on purchasing the "hard" springs from losi...or is that what they come with originally?

with the hard springs what shock weight should I go with to minimize bottoming out on lets say 5 feet of air? thanks

If you are running a very hard smooth surface and big air(5ft is small air for the mini 8ight) then hard springs and 30wt in my op.

thanks for the info.

what do you consider big air? and is 30w still your recommendation for that to prevent bottoming out?

I was contemplating 35w just to be safe. the reason why I'm so worried about bottoming out is cause i'm gonna get the exotek bottom plate. thanks

Big air is 10 to 20 ft in my opinion. But thats all relevant to the individual.

Still 35wt would be fine.

I consider this big air.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz7ghEh2_Bk

I was messing around a few weeks ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYNOtwBmZbo

thanks for the quick reply and help. the vids were entertaining.

nice

I'm new to the mini 8ight and love it. From what i am hearing 15wt and hard springs front and rear are the way to go?