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PsycoB4 11-17-2009 10:25 PM

hyperion duo
 
Hey guys I have a duo. The first one. And I have a few questions. I want to know why it takes me sometimes over 90 mins to charge batteries. 3800-4800 mah Also I had a 3cell 1500mah batt charge for 99mins Is this normal?? Or is something wrong???

Also Can I update this? or do I need to update it?

I use a 13.8v 12.5amp PSU

Also I have a basically new smc battery I run it, then let sit for 5 mins. then go to charge and the charger is telln me the battery is done chargeing. can you tell me why it does that?

Thank you much appreciated. Love this Charger.

cyrrus 11-18-2009 03:44 AM

here a quick question for you just curious what chemestry of batteries are you charging LiPo, Nimh, nicd??? also what amps are you charging at.

if you your charging lipo the with the cell balancer it does take time to get the last 500 mh in the pack as it useally goes down to around half the amp then further down. till down. I know it take my single cell around 35 minute to fully charge up to 4900.

I hope this helps

JAM MaxAmps 11-18-2009 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by PsycoB4 (Post 6614025)
Hey guys I have a duo. The first one. And I have a few questions. I want to know why it takes me sometimes over 90 mins to charge batteries. 3800-4800 mah Also I had a 3cell 1500mah batt charge for 99mins Is this normal?? Or is something wrong???

Also Can I update this? or do I need to update it?

I use a 13.8v 12.5amp PSU

Also I have a basically new smc battery I run it, then let sit for 5 mins. then go to charge and the charger is telln me the battery is done chargeing. can you tell me why it does that?

Thank you much appreciated. Love this Charger.



Try watching your charge rate while charging. If your never seeing the true rate you set the charger at you need a bigger Power supply. The DUO needs at least a 30 amp 360 watt power supply to operate correctly.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-18-2009 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6615061)
Try watching your charge rate while charging. If your never seeing the true rate you set the charger at you need a bigger Power supply. The DUO needs at least a 30 amp 360 watt power supply to operate correctly.

Jason

The PSU is plenty sir. Do you not understand I am charging 5amp batteries So I only need double that. I charge 1 battery at a time.

I know what I am talking about also the battery doesnt charge for more than 5 seconds. So I cant see shit. The battery is Brand new. Never had a issue. and It even charges on my turnigy 6. So ........

Sumtimes it takes over 2hrs to do 1 battery can you explain that???

I am only running lipos from 3400-5200 mah 25-35c

JAM MaxAmps 11-18-2009 03:29 PM

Well sir due to your attitude and language and seeing that this is an older no longer warrantied charger we will just end this thread here. Good luck and best regards

Jason

PsycoB4 11-18-2009 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6616803)
Well sir due to your attitude and language and seeing that this is an older no longer warrantied charger we will just end this thread here. Good luck and best regards

Jason

I dont see where I was rude? Or had Bad Language? I was discussing what was wrong and at the time I wrote this, I was at the track and very Frustrated that this was happening. I dont see why you took it so Personal. I do apologize if I hurt or said anything that could make you feel I have taken.

but I could Use help on the charger and could like to know why and how. Thank you

JAM MaxAmps 11-19-2009 06:44 AM

Thank you for the apology, if you have never updated the charger I would start there. Another thing to watch is the balancer while your charging. Your packs may not be balancing out as fast as they used to. The Hyperion's balancer is very sensitive and the extra time may be spent trying to balance out the packs. Check those two things and go from there.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-19-2009 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6618964)
Thank you for the apology, if you have never updated the charger I would start there. Another thing to watch is the balancer while your charging. Your packs may not be balancing out as fast as they used to. The Hyperion's balancer is very sensitive and the extra time may be spent trying to balance out the packs. Check those two things and go from there.

Jason

Hey Jay. Did anyone say anything about using the Balancer?? I dont mean to be rude, but at times people give the wrong answers.

Lets start over......

I run my SMC 5200mah 25c battery for 12 mins. I go to charge it and it tells me the battery is done. I put the SAME battery to my other charger, it works fine.

Now also this charger is taking longer than my turnigy 6 to charge the same battery. Now why is that???

I never updated it and dont know how really. But I think this charger is dead, and is not working properly. I see it is discontinued but Im sure that you can help me out and fix this isssue.

Thank you and have a good day

JAM MaxAmps 11-19-2009 10:39 AM

Hey I'm trying to help here plain and simple.

What is the DUO's screen reading when it claims your pack is fully charged? What's it showing for numbers. With out that info I can't say whether the charger is bad or not.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-20-2009 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6619647)
Hey I'm trying to help here plain and simple.

What is the DUO's screen reading when it claims your pack is fully charged? What's it showing for numbers. With out that info I can't say whether the charger is bad or not.

Jason

How can the charger be bad if it charges my other batteries? Every battery that I have?? Let me go look up the #s and get back to you.

But I mean with what I am saying what does it sound like to you? I know you guys dont repair chargers, You just replace. I dont know where any of my paperwork is on this item. I was told these DO NOT Break. And are Flawless. That is why I bought this charger.

How is the eos1201?? is that any good compared to this??

oldsprintfan 11-20-2009 10:50 AM

SMC Battery
 
Check your "Battery Type" setting on the SMC to make sure it is LIPO and not LION. I set my Hyperion wrong once, LION instead of LIPO and it behaved exactly as you described. Hope this helps.

PsycoB4 11-20-2009 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by oldsprintfan (Post 6623627)
Check your "Battery Type" setting on the SMC to make sure it is LIPO and not LION. I set my Hyperion wrong once, LION instead of LIPO and it behaved exactly as you described. Hope this helps.

LOL hahahahahha :ha::ha:

Its on lipo sorry buddy not that dumb. Plus if you read it worked and chareged the battery b4

oldsprintfan 11-20-2009 12:33 PM

You know I'm really sorry I tried to help. I did make that dumb mistake once by inadvertently changing the battery type when making other changes to the memory data. Obviously you never any mistakes. In spite of your sorry attitude i hope you find your problem.

JAM MaxAmps 11-20-2009 01:23 PM

Ok let s keep on track with out making rude comments to those trying to help you. If you simply insist on being rude we can simply end this here and now.

Now as for the charger another thing you can try doing is cleaning all the electrical contacts. Charge leads, balance plugs the works. As for the durability of the hyperion chargers I still to this day use an original DUO with out any issues. They have a great track record.

-J

va.racer 11-20-2009 06:43 PM

charge peak
 
Is there anyway to get the peak to go higher than 8.38-8.39?
8.44 is max that is legal, so I would like to get this charger to at least go to that voltage.
Thanks

PsycoB4 11-22-2009 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6624064)
Ok let s keep on track with out making rude comments to those trying to help you. If you simply insist on being rude we can simply end this here and now.

Now as for the charger another thing you can try doing is cleaning all the electrical contacts. Charge leads, balance plugs the works. As for the durability of the hyperion chargers I still to this day use an original DUO with out any issues. They have a great track record.

-J

so how long odes it take you to charge a 4800 mah battery or whwatever battery u use? And where do i get firmware to download or install in this thing? Where can i get the usb wire or what not. I love my duo but it seems it is not working proper :sweat:

oldsprintfan 11-22-2009 04:10 PM

http://www.rcdude.com/servlet/the-91...ter-for/Detail

http://www.allerc.com/product_info.p...oducts_id=3091

http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/eos/

JAM MaxAmps 11-23-2009 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by PsycoB4 (Post 6630327)
so how long odes it take you to charge a 4800 mah battery or whwatever battery u use? And where do i get firmware to download or install in this thing? Where can i get the usb wire or what not. I love my duo but it seems it is not working proper :sweat:

Hyperion Updates: http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/pc/eosfw.htm and READ VERY CAREFULLY.

A 4800 Li-Po at 4.8 amps will balance charge in 80 to 90 minutes.


Jason

va.racer 11-23-2009 04:29 PM

where can you get the usb adapter harness needed to download updates?

JAM MaxAmps 11-23-2009 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by va.racer (Post 6635066)
where can you get the usb adapter harness needed to download updates?

http://www.maxamps.com/HYP-USB-COMBO.htm

Jason

va.racer 11-23-2009 04:55 PM

I just need to update the 610i duo.
I thought I only needed one adapter along with usb cable?

JAM MaxAmps 11-23-2009 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by va.racer (Post 6635178)
I just need to update the 610i duo.
I thought I only needed one adapter along with usb cable?



If you have the original DUO or DUOII you need the kit I linked to. If you have the DUOIII it comes with the USB cord and plug for it built into the charger.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-24-2009 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6635115)

Allerc is cheaper. FYI. So I have the Firmware I guess I need off the site. Now I just get this Connectivity kit, and Then Update the charger. It should take away the problems?? I was reading that It also updates the chargers C rate at which the charger chargers?? Did I read that correct? Thank you for the help again Jason. Been very helpful so far. :nod:

JAM MaxAmps 11-24-2009 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by PsycoB4 (Post 6638598)
Allerc is cheaper. FYI. So I have the Firmware I guess I need off the site. Now I just get this Connectivity kit, and Then Update the charger. It should take away the problems?? I was reading that It also updates the chargers C rate at which the charger chargers?? Did I read that correct? Thank you for the help again Jason. Been very helpful so far. :nod:

FYI register as a member with us and you can get it cheaper than that place. As far as the updates solving your issue I can't say whether it will or not. The update will allow you to do a 2C rate for charging up to 10 amps.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-24-2009 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6638697)
FYI register as a member with us and you can get it cheaper than that place. As far as the updates solving your issue I can't say whether it will or not. The update will allow you to do a 2C rate for charging up to 10 amps.

Jason

Sweet thank you. When you register, How do you get your level up? And yeah I was readin up on that. I am a PC specialist And A electronic Freak.. So pretty much am smart with this kind of stuff.

Now if we Charge at 2c How much damage can or are you doing to the batter?? I know it cuts down my charging in half, but what are we really doing to the batteries?

everyjuangohome 11-24-2009 01:00 PM

...the way you post, I will bet a million dollars you are the annoying ahole that screams and yells nonstop up on the drivers stand

PsycoB4 11-24-2009 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by everyjuangohome (Post 6638880)
...the way you post, I will bet a million dollars you are the annoying ahole that screams and yells nonstop up on the drivers stand

yeah thats me in the corner, yelling screamming ohhh yeah holla

JAM MaxAmps 11-24-2009 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by PsycoB4 (Post 6638714)
Sweet thank you. When you register, How do you get your level up? And yeah I was readin up on that. I am a PC specialist And A electronic Freak.. So pretty much am smart with this kind of stuff.

Now if we Charge at 2c How much damage can or are you doing to the batter?? I know it cuts down my charging in half, but what are we really doing to the batteries?

Right of the website:


NO STRINGS ATTACHED!

"Basic" 5% off (Every customer starts with a 5% discount)
"Bronze" 10% off (When total previous purchases are over $100)
"Silver" 15% off (When total previous purchases are over $500)
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What else do I get?
Get invited to member only events such as sales, contests, free products, and more!

What does it cost me?

Nothing! The membership is completely FREE!



As far as charging packs at a 2C rate it doesn't cut the charge time in half. you might shave 10 to 15 minutes off but that's about it. And only do a 2C charge rate if your packs can handle it. Check the packs specs. Ours can handle 5C with no issues at all.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-24-2009 03:44 PM

Does it put more strain on the battery? Does it cut its life in 1/2 ??? Does it hurt the battery? Please let me know thank you.

JAM MaxAmps 11-24-2009 04:24 PM

With our batteries, no. With other brands I can't answer that.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-25-2009 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6639640)
With our batteries, no. With other brands I can't answer that.

Jason

what is so special or different from your batteries then what others use?? what type of cell do you guys use? Thank you

JAM MaxAmps 11-25-2009 09:44 AM

All I can say is our cells are built to our specs. They have been tested over the last year at 5C charge rates with no damage shown to the cells capacities or life span. As for what brand of cells we use.......well that's a company secret.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-25-2009 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by JAM MaxAmps (Post 6642473)
All I can say is our cells are built to our specs. They have been tested over the last year at 5C charge rates with no damage shown to the cells capacities or life span. As for what brand of cells we use.......well that's a company secret.

Jason

company secret :smile:

gholt13 11-25-2009 04:36 PM

will the max amps 4s 6500 go for 20 minuties in race conditions say in a rc8 with a mmm and 2200 kv motor?

JAM MaxAmps 11-25-2009 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by gholt13 (Post 6643603)
will the max amps 4s 6500 go for 20 minuties in race conditions say in a rc8 with a mmm and 2200 kv motor?


Yes 20 minutes is doable.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-27-2009 10:34 AM

Ok got the wire and connected to pc.

chris:
Question
I am trying to update my Hyperion duo to the new software and the firmware update program keeps freezing when connecting charger to PSU. What can I do to prevent this?

Also the charger is not going into Vendor mode anymore or not being picked up. Very frustrating at this moment. 2.5 hrs of nothing. Any Idea why it freezes or locks up??

I have v1.5 now and Id like to use v2.3 thank you

PsycoB4 11-29-2009 05:19 PM

Any help Jay. I need to update this thank you

JAM MaxAmps 11-30-2009 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by PsycoB4 (Post 6649438)
Ok got the wire and connected to pc.

chris:
Question
I am trying to update my Hyperion duo to the new software and the firmware update program keeps freezing when connecting charger to PSU. What can I do to prevent this?

Also the charger is not going into Vendor mode anymore or not being picked up. Very frustrating at this moment. 2.5 hrs of nothing. Any Idea why it freezes or locks up??

I have v1.5 now and Id like to use v2.3 thank you


Originally Posted by PsycoB4 (Post 6655954)
Any help Jay. I need to update this thank you


I'm sorry are you directing these questions to me? I saw the name Chris and Jay and assumed you were asking others. If your having issues with the update procedure please make sure first off that you have selected the correct version for your charger model and variation. For the Original DUO you need this one:

for EOS v1 Series 0610i-NET and 0610i-DUO
(totally optional update to add features. Do not install unless accepting FULL responsibility)

DOWNLOAD 0610i NET v2.3 Firmware

DOWNLOAD 0610i DUO v2.3 Firmware
(this is for ORIGINAL DUO ONLY, NOT FOR DUO2!)

v2.3
* Increased Memory Slots per port to 20 (from 10, originally)
* Changed Cooling Fan control such that the fan is always on if case temp exceeds 45C.
ALSO SEE NET/DUO v2.0 MANUAL ADDENDUM and Firmware Details


Verify that you are trying to install the correct version for starters. Most often this is the main issue for errors.

Another helpful hint is to print off the directions so you can view while you doi the update.

Jason

PsycoB4 11-30-2009 12:06 PM

I was talking to you Jay. Ummm this is the FW

DOWNLOAD 0610i DUO v2.3 Firmware
(this is for ORIGINAL DUO ONLY, NOT FOR DUO2!)


I am using this. I am a PC specialist. I tryed 3 diff PCs with 3 Diff Windows. XP pro, Win Vista, win 7. And all 3 freeze. I do exactly what it tells me. When I go to connect charger to power the proggy freezes. even when I dont connect the charger to the power, and I click the proggy it freezes. Do you know why this is happening? Am I missing a file? A driver? I downloaded everything I could from the hyperion site, silicone labs. All that. I just dont know what is going on.

JAM MaxAmps 11-30-2009 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by PsycoB4 (Post 6659509)
I was talking to you Jay. Ummm this is the FW

DOWNLOAD 0610i DUO v2.3 Firmware
(this is for ORIGINAL DUO ONLY, NOT FOR DUO2!)


I am using this. I am a PC specialist. I tryed 3 diff PCs with 3 Diff Windows. XP pro, Win Vista, win 7. And all 3 freeze. I do exactly what it tells me. When I go to connect charger to power the proggy freezes. even when I dont connect the charger to the power, and I click the proggy it freezes. Do you know why this is happening? Am I missing a file? A driver? I downloaded everything I could from the hyperion site, silicone labs. All that. I just dont know what is going on.

Ok wasn't sure. My name is Jason not Jay. Did the drivers from Silicon labs install ok? I have never heard of the program just freezing up.

Jason


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