As you all know, the outdoor season will be over with in afew months and the indoor will be upon us. and if you ran this last year we will be having it again this year and im getting teh news out early. (early news attracts more drivers) i am posting the rules and unoficial entry form for you all to look at. i will update the form after it recieves complete clearence from Tod.




P.s. it may SAY official entry form but is not. Prices may change. and date is to be determned yet, and we have to aquire teh building yet too. when it is cleared by tod i will post the form attached in some of the local hoby shops and after we know when and where i will leave entry forms at teh shops(if they let me lol)and post teh official on on here as well.

Just to clarify. I assume you are not trying to penalize people with brushless systems (we just can't afford to have 5 motors, a bejillion sets of brushes and springs and a comm lathe, nor the ambition, time or desire to perform mantainance on old tech motors. End of brushless vs brushed rant) by limiting the number of vehicles (repairs, battery changes, ect.)

My main concern is the there should never be any replacement truck/car for any breakage. If the truck breaks it need to be repaired and then put back out.

Battery changes should be made on at least one truck if you are switching trucks to let the motor cool. e.g. you can't just have your next truck all ready to go and throw it out immediately. You must do a battery change on either the old truck or the new truck.

Which brings me to my last point. I assume the ONLY, let me repeat ONLY ONLY reason you are allowing multiple backup vehicles is to allow old tech brushed motors to cool down. Not for some advantage of being able to make a quick pit stop or repair by switching vehicles.

Hopefully everybody has moved on from the old tech brushed and we won't even have to worry about these little annoyances.

Also what is the definition of flashlight? Something the emits light?

Can I have a high power LED that draws power from the main pack as my "flashlight"?

I don't understand #5 either. "Personal transponders are at the race directors decision." This sounds suspiciously like somebodies getting ready to penalize those who have personal transponders.

Something you missed to even things out. No 3600 mAh cells. Come to think of it all I have is some old 1200s. So no 3300s, no 3000s, no 2400s, no 2200s, no 2000s, no 1800s and no 1500s. And no lithium packs! Just to make things fair. Or we could just have manditory pit stops every 2 minutes.

Boy I can be a real ass when I want to be.

But seriously, no lithium packs.

no i am not trying to penilize teh brushles users by making them run 1 vehicle. if geared right you can get 10+min out of the pack and at teh end of race be around 100-120 for temp. this is why we have a practice before race. to get your gearing and batery times down. i was geared at a 14p/86s in my XXXTMF and came off after entire race at 115. (the winner was runnig a 15p and came of at low 120's) I was also getting around 11min a pack average.

this is mainly pointed at multi car teams(normal motor team) because a brushless team cant run more than 1 car, if they break they have to fix before running more. Multi car teams cannot put a diferent truck out untill the broken one is fixed. NO IF's AND's OR BUT's. this levels out.

here is where the all vehicles must be o same channel comes in. your gonna have to turn off 1 radio or truck first. and the same body must be used on all teh trucks. like i posted above those rules are not final and will change. this also levels out because it take time to plug in teh new truck and put the body from the first truk onto the second one.

that is the only reson is because after 1 or 2 packs a brushed motor will be to hot and will need a cool down period so as not to ruin the motor. here again the brushles gearing comes into play. get teh gearing right and no need to cool down. leveled out

yes you can use a hp led. but id suggest using a small slave pack. like a reciever pack from a nitro car(ths will keep teh weight from a led and a normal small flachlight about teh same). BUT it has to be on vehicle the entire race. same goes for the normal flashlight.NO IF's AND's OR BUT's.

we are not trying to penalize anyone. for the last 2 races we had we all used teh track transponders. the main reason is again teh multi car teams.(we have nothing against you) here is the reason, you cant run 2 diferent pt's on the same team it wont register them as the same team but 2 different ones. so a pt may only be used on a single car. or if there is a problem with a track transponder. then a pt may be alowed if the race directod says its needed.

ok here you may have a problem. answer get on a team with enuf good packs to cover. we found that bare minimum for a team was 7 packs( my team was runnign 3, 3000 and 4, 3300. with this your putting the last one in teh truck the same time your pulling the first one off the charger. and there will be no litiums or 3600. NO IF's AND's OR BUT's

i hope so. but there will most likely be someone running brushed.




I hope this cleares this up a bit and when the form has been passed i will put this post on the back of the sighn up sheet. to help clear stuff up more.

Just about every new GP3300 pack out there is hitting close to 3600mAH these days. GP could relabel them as 3600s and no one would really know the difference. The only 3600s are the Sanyos, and no one really runs them anyway. Why make stupid, unnecessary rules? If you allow 3300s, you should allow 3600s.

Besides, don't you need a track to run this race on?

OK, I'll go away now...

If there isn't any difference in run time with the 3600, I guess it would be OK. What about a little mini-Mr. Fusion?

Wheres this going to be run?


And you should run this LeMans style with multiple classes and kinds of vehicles on the track at the same time. at that level, let nitro run

lol nitro indoors. lol.
when we have a building i will post the location. the reason we dot run multiple vehicle styles is because the trucks and teh sedans in the same race is crazy. i could see a micro or a f1 running with the sedans and a mini-t running with the big trucks but other than that. the sedan race is flat(of course) and the truck race will ahve a few jumps but nothing to big.

ok the thing about teh bats i didnt know. all i knew was that no one runs the 3600 yet.