At Leisure Hours we have a:

"Stock Slash" Class: This is where 95% of the Newbies start. Stock esc, stock Slash motor. Stock Slash wheels and tires. You can change radios and tune the suspension.

"SCT" class which follows the ROAR rules with the exception of tires : Any SCT, Limited to a 17.5 motor, any ESC, any combination of SC tires, You can change radios and tune the suspension.

Mod Short Course: Any Motor any ESC any SC tire. A lot of times you will see a "SCT" with a 17.5 TQ and win this class (slow is fast).

Jason TQed with a 17.5 in his SCT in open last week at MARCCA by over a lap. I was under the impression the Open SCT class at MARCCA was limited to 17.5 like other tracks that run stock classes as there lower class. Jason ran a 17.5 in his SCT at MARCCA outdoors this summer I believe he was second in points first time around. All the other tracks we have went to use the 17.5 rule. Maybe when you are at the Spektrum race you can tell Scotty what a mistake his stock class is with a 17.5 motor limit and and point out to him how all the stock class guys are cheating.

All the other tracks we race at have motor rules for the class structure.

Jason ran supertrux and made the Bmain with a 13.5. I feel your argument against motor limits is totally unfounded and detrimental to your ability to becoming a better driver. There are a great number of drivers young and old who use this formula to become very good drivers. You will run against them at the Spectrum race Gabe. Good luck to you.

Keith.

+1 keith. Many places also limit tires in stock (smart, traction is the real limiter). I watched a pretty good club racer (Frank Krivitz) go faster with his 1.75 truck than with his mod truck @ Trackside last night, a track that requires horsepower in most people's estimation.

Hot charge your batteries and you will find yourself in a parking lot contemplating where else you could race because if anyone catches you doing it you will be escorted out. No one will tolerate a racer risking a fire in the pits.

I didnt know that. Your point is right, then.

But the solution would be to change the format.if you tell them run what you brung, how can you put a limit? They might as well buy a motor for the class they want to run in, no?

Cheating isn't an issue, although I was asked what I was running because of "boost" once.
Last time at TrackSide I ran 17.5 & had to pound the motor more than I liked, I only placed 4th in the "A" if I recall, & the track would have been 3x more fun if I ran "mod".
Unless the track has gotten a lot better I'll likely run Mod SCT & box stock Slash.

How many motors have you burnt up in the past couple years?
Aside from my two rotor explosions in the 1/8th buggy, my self... none.

Once you've got the setup, & limit power it becomes a game of splitting hairs... who can pound on their equipment harder & make minimum weight...
Many years ago I did care & ran a lot of "stock" those were different times & I care much less about that now.
Now motors & batteries are non-issue, & limitting them is pointless on a club level.

There is a place for 17.5, just not on limited budget.

my 0.02

Wow, what a concept!! A few people cant seem to follow some rules so instead of enforcing some simple rules, you are just going to let guys do what ever they want. Seems a little back asswards to me.

Bud Riedner #4D

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Bud Riedner #4D

In two years of racing Jason has taken out the front bearing on two 1700Kv in 1/8 buggy and truggy, one 13.5 motor stopped working that we bought used (I think I gave it to you) and one 12.5 titan motor. But Jason only races at least once a week and 20 different cars usually 3-5 classes per an event. How about you?

When you run mod at trackside you will be racing factory drivers. When you race stock spec slash you will be racing Jason. Again, good luck. :)

Keith.

So you tq'ed with a 17.5 and yet, it's not enough motor?

17.5 is plenty of motor. If you don't think so, you need to work on setup.
I pretty much always run a 17.5 motor, without "turbo", "cheat mode" or whatever they call it now. My ESC does have adjustable timing tho, and I put more timing in the motor as well. I've ran at multiple tracks (even outdoor track) and have done quite well with a 17.5 motor.

Does my 17.5 look fast? Kinda, but not as "fast" as a mod motor
Does it come off the track at 180+ deg? No, last week it was about 135 deg
No, I've never burnt up a motor.

So last weekend I Tq'ed by a lap running in the mod class and was over 2 laps faster than the stock sct class.

What the hell is "hot charging" a battery?

Here's what I do, charge battery, drive truck, marshal, repeat.

What was the point of this thread??? Oh yeah, I think 17.5 should be a motor rule for sct at marcca. If there are two classes, the "slower" class should be 17.5 motor. Put some limits on things...

I race at Trackside.

I run 17.5 stock short course.

I have had the good luck of making the mains some nights and I was the TQ one night at the SNF series they have running.

I have never burned up a 17.5 motor. In fact the hottest my motor has been is 128 degree's.

I like Bud's idea :nod: but I am not a member of the club so my opinion probably doesn't count as much as someone who is.

guys its a club and its not going to change its a nice idea but it is what it is run what you brung.
i understand the concern but think about the people that come into a second hand system it is what they have not everyone can afford to buy differnet motors are you saying those people shouldnt be able to race in this club?
to my understanding this club is built on making sure everyone can race cause its what we love its fun "toy cars for bowling trophies"
so my question is cant we all just race?
Spike:flaming:

So if there were 5 racers that wanted to run motors with 17.5 in them would you setup a class just for those 5 so they could race? Just curious as I am not up on club policies these days.

You wouldn't turn people away you would just group them based on motor and not skill level which is how I am lead to believe how it is setup today...someone correct me if I am wrong.

All the Marcca class breakdowns are based from driver skill level. Equipment , motors are not a factor. It is the drivers choice which skill level to compete in. The open SCT and open stadium truck classes are for beginning to intermediate skills, The super SCT and Super stadum truck classes are for intermediate to experienced drivers. With the limited space we have in the current building the track layouts are tight. There is no advantage to run a hot motor, its all about making the truck turn and throttle control. I run a 5.5 brushless because its the equipment i have. My throttle end point is turned down to 66%. In the club enviroment what we do seems to work.

i race with a 13.5 in super truck it seem to work for me.

marcca is a great little bull ring it like trackside when the dirt track in back but 100% traction on carpet i`m sure if i showed up with foam tires on my sct i could still race there i have try it

Thank you for the class structure information. It is very helpful.