Lawrence Oval Racing
 

"tis that time of year again for us to set the Lawrence Oval Racing Rules and classes.

This is also the time and place to voice your opinions because silence will be considered acceptance. If a lot of opinions are expressed by Feb 8 then a meeting will be setup to work things out. Place and time to be determined.

CLASSES

Box Stock Class

This class will be the RTR class and ALL components must remain as they were when removed from the box. Radios can be upgraded to the Spectrum or other. No changes in motor, battery, speed control, etc allowed. Chassis to be 4wd.

4wd Stock NASCAR

Motor: 13.5 BL or equivalent Brushed
Battery: Any battery up to 5000 mah and 7.4 vdc, Lipo will be 2s and up to 5000 mah
Body: any COT style molded NASCAR body. Must sport COT style rear spoiler.
Tires: Any rubber slick tire on either 26 mm or 30mm rims.
Chassis: any 4wd touring car chassis.

4wd 10.5 class

Motor: 10.5 BL or equivalent Brushed
Battery: Any battery up to 5000 mah and 7.4 vdc, Lipo will be 2s and up to 5000 mah
Body: any molded latemodel styled body regardless of manufacturer.
Spoilers: The rear spoiler will be limited to 2" as measured from the deck. Side dams are optional and limited to 3-1/4" from the deck including any wickerbill at the top and must be supported in a minmum of two places with a solid strap. No floppers allowed. This side dam must be 3-1/2" behind the center of the front wheel and not extend more than 1=1/2" beyond the rear of the car and must be located only on the left hand side of the car. NO extension or supports or thingamobob or whatumacallit, etc will be allowed on the the remaining parts of the car. All cars are considered to be left hand drive cars.
Tires: Any rubber slick tire or foam tire on eirther 26 mm or 30mm rims.
Chassis: any 4wd touring car chassis.

Open class:

Any chassis 4wd or 2wd allowed.
Body: No restriction on body type but it must cover all wheels and but firmly attached. LAtemodel bodies must comply with the above restrictions. TC body must comply with ROAR rules.
Powerpant: Nitro or Electric allowed.
Chassis must be 1/10 scale.

1/8 Scale Latemodel

Rules governoring this class are being adopted from the NSCS and can be found on Dirtoval.com / links / NSCS / Class Rules.

Any and all other classes are open to suggestion if needed and please remember, it takes minmum of 3 to make a class.

General Rules:

1. No bitching or nasty comments between any racers. Both will be asked to leave. Second offense unfortunately will not be allowed to return.

2. Car will be rendomly tech for compliance. Non compliance will be DG.

3. We are here for a good time and fellowship among racers and besides we are not racing NASCAR and these are toy cars among men.

4. Rough driving as determined by the race director will be a warning for the first offense. Second offese will be DQ for that race. Third offense will be for the night.

5. Race director has the final word.

ENTRY FEES: We plan to charge a weekly entry fee to cover expenses and lap counting equipment, etc. That fee currently is planned for $5.00 per entrant (car). All monies above the nightly costs will be returned as either winnings or door prizes. This will be determined at the time by the race director.

Thank you

Phil

Sounds good to me! 'Bout time we get a thread about RACING in LAWRENCE!
At least it gives us something to discuss!

Who's the race director. Is this Lornes lap counting system or ???
Why is there a limit on the capicity of a lipo? Whats that matter.
I'm planning on buying a late model body and running it, 4300 class 10.5 class, I'm not worried about measuring anything as long as it sets low and my wheels line up. Is this en-tire talk or 6th street...............:tire:

A "Gearbox class" for 2WD trucks & buggies. Also an unlimited Monster Truck class! this one could be gas or electric, to be divided if turnout allows. Also, I think we should allow a little leeway in the Nascar class to let people run the bodies they ran last year, the HPI Stocker w/ touring car rear spoiler. I think the Mah limit on Li-Po's is a bit much, though.

i'd think the more the miah the bigger the battery, which means the heavier the battery theSLOWER the car. :tire:

Who's running 10.5 and 13.5 classes

i would like to suggest the rules be finalized in the next 3 or 4 weeks and sufficent amount of copies available at Georges hobby house. so current and new comer racers can pick up a copy. once the rules are set then we can have a more structured idea of classes and where ROGER can spend our money. :D i also urge supporting your local hobby store as much as possible. yes the internet is cheaper. but remember shipping. no i don't know why some things get to rogers faster than others however if he can't have it in 4 to 5 days than yes order it elsewhere. you can't race with a broken car. the EN-TIRE parking lot is still under rogers guidance this year. i"m just another racer there.

Guys i will try to do more racing here in town also this summer. 3 years ago i talked with alot of you local guys about possibly getting back into racing. well i did. the 1st year was onroad only. the 2 year i continued to onroad racing and also started nitro 1/8 buggy off road racing and also relate an Ole flame with getting back into electric off road racing. i plan on continuing my RC racing for a couple reasons. 1: i have a loving wife that i think enjoys being at the races almost as much as i. 2: this sport is my passion so as long as I'm able to pull the trigger i am.;) i hope we have a fun season this year and get some new racers showing up more. good thread DOC!;)

i myself will be running the 4300 late model hooptie class:lol:

i will talk to AP from topeka soon and as him about the free lap counting system for a laptop.

This should turn out to be pretty good.
Having the rules in writing at Rogers is a great idea. I also like the idea of a box stockclass. It should bring in more racers, people who are new to racing or on a budget like we all are.

The rules on the late model bodies. Whats a flopper and a wickerbill. I'm not a seasoned oval racer. I'd just like to buy a body and use it.

I will try to make more races this year as well.
I'll be running the 10.5/4300 class.

Any ideas on when we're going to start?

Has anyone talked to Lorne about the lap counter?

I'm guessing we'ed start racing in April sometime. Roger will probably post it or maybe we can all agree on a date. The lap counting system they're talking about is one you download to a lap top.

I know I haven't talked to him tonight. maybe he'll see this and join the discussion.

Man did i stir up the hippies!!

4wd 10.5 /4300 class

Motor: 10.5 BL, 4300 BL, or equivalent Brushed
Battery: Any Nimh battery, Lipos will be 2s and up to 5000 mah
Body: any molded latemodel styled body regardless of manufacturer.
Spoilers: The rear spoiler will be limited to 2" as measured from the deck. Side dams are optional and limited to 3-1/4" from the deck including any wickerbill at the top and must be supported in a minmum of two places with a solid strap. No floppers allowed. This side dam must be 3-1/2" behind the center of the front wheel and not extend more than 1=1/2" beyond the rear of the car and must be located only on the left hand side of the car. NO extension or supports or thingamobob or whatumacallit, etc will be allowed on the the remaining parts of the car. All cars are considered to be left hand drive cars.
Tires: Any rubber slick tire or foam tire on eirther 26 mm or 30mm rims.
Chassis: any 4wd touring car chassis.

Open Truckclass:

Any chassis 2wd Only only allowed.
Body: Limited to Monster Truck, Stadium Truck, or EDM style bodies only.
Powerpant: Nitro or Electric allowed.
Chassis must be 1/10 scale.

Nice avitar doc.

Sorry guys I've only have 8000mah lipos. I dont plan on buying a new Lipo to race here in Lawrence so......

Do you guys think a checkpoint 13x2 is equal to a 10.5 brushless?

I'll clean up the grammer later.

A flopper is a side dam that falls over and stands up going in the corner. A wickerbill is the little bend in the side dam at the top.

I plan to have a legal body and attachments at Rogers next week. It will be on top of Slimer for the Nitro TC class.

Slimer is hungry after his long sleep...:sneaky:

The race directors are:

Roger Rabbit is the man
Dr Phil
Ricky Racer

I'm assuming the track we'll be running on is Entire.

Race Schedule is still being developed but I would like to see one night inJuly or so be set asside as a L8M under the Lights night and invite racers from several areas to run.

Other things Thought of include temporary lighting for the north end and back straight, etc.

Thanks Rick for checking on the Lap Counter system.

We can work with the Unlimited Monster Truck class. Big Midget, You are the Monster Truck Expert here.

Would you mind designing the rules for this class? i would think this class includes Muggys, Truggys, Big Revos, and things like that. Don't know but it sounds like we have a great start and I look forward to running some times this year while keeping my L8M schedule fairly in tact.

Its going to get busy

Dr Phil:cool:

8000 mah .... Can we make the limit a 2s or 7.4 vdc only on the Lipos?

Steph wants a pink car to drive when she can?....HA, HA , HA.. PMS Racing... Ouch stop hitting Steph.

Dr Phil

Thanks Dr. Phil, I'm not quite an expert but thanks :D
Stunning Steve Shades would be a good candidate for sure.

I'd like to see your oval body when it at Rogers, let us know.

2s for sure. :D

I should be in for 10.5 and maybe 13.5, gearbox(4wd), and Monster truck :D

Phil-

Had a quick ? for you. Last year didn't we try to employ a small amount of money as a race fee? As I recall there was quite a strong disagreement...so what's changed this year? Just trying to figure it all out....:weird::)

4wd Stock NASCAR

Motor: 13.5 BL or equivalent Brushed
Battery: Any battery up to 5000 mah and 7.4 vdc, Lipo will be 2s and up to 5000 mah
Body: any COT style molded NASCAR body. Must sport COT style rear spoiler.
Tires: Any rubber slick tire on either 26 mm or 30mm rims.

I think this should be 24 or 26mm rims. I couldn't find 30mm rims available.

I think it was all the grousing about Gas, Soda..... and so on. but, if you notice, it does mention a use for all money not used. I think that's the reason nobody's complaining. Or, nobody noticed the mention of fees....

How about the lipos, several of mine are 6000 mah??? :(:D

I think we should specify the rule as 2S Li-Po in a hard case.(for safety)

There's to many rules for Lawrence racing. Its needs to be way simplified. Lets decided on a class that we all are interested in running and do it.
I say keep the box stock class for begginers. Monster trucks?? or Gear box?? run what you brought depending on the turn out on race day. 3 makes a class.
entry fee is fine at $5 as long as racing organized and the track is (soda sprayed) prepared. :D

Your killing me Roger about half of my lipos aren't hard cased... :( :D

On the NASCAR 4wd class, last years configuration with the HPI spoiler will be legal.

Lipos: All lipos will be 2s and hard cased for safety.

The fees are what they are, $5 to race is cheap, and will be used to pay for the blower gas and oil, soda, track lighting, and if needed a sprayer for the soda. plus any fee for the lap counter system or lot rental, if applicable.

Any and all excess moneys will be returned as either door prizes or in the form of RC bucks from George's Hobbies.

10.5 and Nitro 1/10: Bodies can be either Touring car or Latemodel origin and must be molded and commerically available.

There is a Latemodel body in full trim on display at George's Hobby. It doesn't even have any scratches on it yet.

Later

Phil

In the interest of maintaining class size, does anyone have a problem with running the open class with the 10.5 class?

This is with the assumption that the open class will be mostly nitro 4wd and a few others.

Phil

I forgot, Touring Car and NASCAR style bodies must be ran in their normal trim. That means on a NASCAR and TC bodies, you can't hang a sidedam and the additional rear spoiler on the body for side and down force.

If you want to run a NASCAR style or the T-HD body, the Buds Super Bi-Level wing will be allowed only in the OPEN CLASS. The latemodel bodies can be tunneled or "decked".

Thanks

Phil

Rules - First Draft
 

LAWRENCE PAVED OVAL CLASSES

Race Schedule
Track Preparation: Track preparation will begin as soon as Entire releases the parking lot on race night. Preparation to consist of removal of debris by blowing and / or sweeping the track surface then applying soda to the surface. The track will be closed during the preparation process and until released by a Race Director. This for the safety of the people preparing the track surface.
Drivers Meeting: The drivers meeting shall take place between the practice period and the start of the first heat. A breif practice period will be available between the drivers meeting and the first heat, at the Race Directors discretion.
Heats: All Heats shall be 4 minutes in length.
Mains: All mains shall be 5 minutes in length.
ENTRY FEES: We plan to charge a weekly entry fee to cover expenses and lap counting equipment, etc. That fee currently is planned for $5.00 per entrant (car). All monies above the nightly costs will be returned as either winnings or door prizes. This will be determined at the time by the race director. Winnings will be handed out as RC Bucks redeamable at George’s Hobbies.
BATTERIES: NimH limited to 7 cells, Lipos to be limited to 2s
BODIES: Touring Car and NASCAR style bodies must be ran in their normal trim. That means on a NASCAR and TC bodies, you can't hang a sidedam and the additional rear spoiler on the body for side and down force. The latemodel bodies can be tunneled or "decked".
General Rules:

1. No bitching or nasty comments between any or at the corner marshalls. Both will be asked to leave. Second offense unfortunately will not be allowed to return.

2. Car will be randomly tech for compliance. Non compliance will be DG.

3. We are here for a good time and fellowship among racers and besides we are not racing NASCAR and these are toy cars among men.

4. Rough driving as determined by the race director will be a warning for the first offense. Second offense will be DQ for that race. Third offense will be for the night.

5. Race directors has the final word.

6. All racers are expected to corner marshall after their race.


CLASSES: It takes three entrants to make a class for that night of racing. All Entrants planning to race on a specific night will be registered before the drivers meeting. Any exceptions must be cleared with the Race Director of the night.

Box Stock Class

This class will be the RTR class and ALL components must remain as they were when removed from the box. Radios can be upgraded to the Spectrum or other. No changes in motor, battery, speed control, etc allowed. Chassis to be 4wd.

4wd Stock NASCAR

Motor: 13.5 BL or 19T Brushed allowed
Battery: Any 6 cell NimH battery up to 5000 mah or 2s lipo battery per the above restrictions
Body: any COT style molded NASCAR body. Must sport COT style rear spoiler. Last years NASCAR body with the HPI spoiler is acceptable.
Tires: Any rubber slick tire on either 24 mm or 26mm rims.
Chassis: any 4wd touring car chassis.

4wd 10.5 / Equivalent Brushed class

Motor: 10.5 BL, or equivalent rating
Battery: Any Nimh battery, Lipos will be 2s per the above restrictions
Body: any molded latemodel styled body regardless of manufacturer, NASCAR and TC bodies are allowed per the restrictions in the Bodies section.
Spoilers: The rear spoiler will be limited to 2" as measured from the deck. Side dams are optional and limited to 3-1/4" from the deck including any wickerbill at the top and must be supported in a minmum of two places with a solid strap. No floppers allowed. This side dam must be 3-1/2" behind the center of the front wheel and not extend more than 1=1/2" beyond the rear of the car and must be located only on the left hand side of the car. NO extension, supports, thingamobob, or whatumacallit, etc will be allowed on the the remaining parts of the car. All cars are considered to be left hand drive cars.
Tires: Any rubber slick tire or foam tire on eirther 24 mm or 26mm rims.
Chassis: any 4wd touring car chassis.

4wd Open class:

Any 4wd chassis allowed.
Body: No restriction on body type but it must cover all wheels and but firmly attached. Latemodel bodies must comply with the above restrictions. TC and NASCAR bodies must comply with the above restrictions .
Powerpant: Nitro or Electric allowed.
Chassis must be 1/10 scale.

2wd Gearbox class:

Any chassis 2wd Only only allowed.
Body: Limited to Buggy Type Open Wheel, Stadium Truck, Oval truck, or EDM style bodies only.
Powerpant: Nitro or Electric allowed.
Chassis must be 1/10 scale.
Unlimited Monster Truck Class:
This class is open to Truggies, Muggys, 1/8 Revos, and other large Monster trucks. Anything goes but you have to drive the oval. Cutting corners in this class will be grounds for DQ.

1/8 Scale Latemodel

Any production based 1/8 offroad buggy/car chassis
Can run either Ofna Tire Part number 86505 or Losi Tire Part number LOSA 17768B
There will not be any grooving of the tires
Does not have to be the pre-mounts, but must be that tire.
Must run a OEM 6 gear diff or Torsen diff,in front and rear end of the car
May run a working diff or a spool for the center diff
There will not be any one way bearings in the driveline
Can run up to a 3” Spoiler measured from the deck lid
Added winglets can be up to 2.5" high ” x 4.5” in length, maximum of 3 across the rear spoiler. Winglets cannot be rectangular or square in shape. Cannot be any higher than the spoiler. There cannot be any sharp edges.
Any Nitro Engine
Single speed transmission only
No restrictions on window openings
Body must fully cover the wheels.

guys i'm cool with all the rules, except the batterys are a issue. the casing. we are outside plus so many of us have maxamp batterys. which are not hardcase. all the other rules are cool with me but the soft case lipos really should be allowed. i have 4 softcase lipos, been racing everywhere with them for almost 3 years now.

+1 Ditto! :nod:

. Rough driving as determined by the race director will be a warning for the first offense. Second offese will be DQ for that race. Third offense will be for the night.



I thought rubbin' was racin'. Sounds lame. I like to bump, Bump, Bump! That's the sound of the 15's while they're hittin in my trunk.

Rubbin' IS racin', but punting is meant for football. Turning into somebody with intent to wreck them, AKA "hacking" and close racing is two different things. It would be like if you're inside someone and put them into the outside curb. It's still supposed to be fun.

I agree it is lame.
It's way to early to be talking about hacking :cry::cry:

Novak has a chart that rockstar found. You can see the link if you look on the next page of this thread.

Lee,

I'm not a Zapper Racer, only drive Rogers stuff and I appreciate the comments and they are noted.

Later

Phil