Mr. X showed up just one day before the last 1/10th Gas Sunday Race of the year. I am sure he did not drive all the way to Senayan just to run his car (1/10th) a mere half a lap before, much to his surprise (and I am sure to the guy who drove the 1/8th as well), it turned into little bits and pieces flying about the air halfway down the straight. At least that's the part I sighted a split second after I heard a choir of people shouting AWAAAAS!. I doubt it that they even shouted in time and would have helped prevent the mishaps. It was a storming fully modified 1/8th coming into the straightway on full throttle. What could possible have more destroying power than that to a helpless 1/10th running just barely faster than idle, on the innermost edge of the straightway – where in so doing Mr. X was hoping that even the most expert RC driver would miss even if they aimed for it. Well this particular 1/8th driver guy did not miss and hit it good. Only he never saw it, much less aimed for it, until after the crash and some moment later when someone told him there was no meteor rock involved in the crash. Still from the drivers' stand, he took a better look at the "thing" that he had hit and could have sworn the thing looked like... umm... some rock. Well it did - at least without a body as it was.

To cut a long story short, nobody was happy. In fact, one of them started to make the other uncomfortable with his uncalled for utterances. The 1/8th driver packed and left, and Mr. X was still in rage. His comments got even nastier without the 1/8th guy in the vicinity anymore. How do I know all this you say? Mr. X sat right behind me, where I wished he had not because it bothered me. Enough to make me wanted to draw the picture for you guys, so that we can all think about it. It could happen to you.

Now, do we or don't we need rules in light of this?

The answer is : We need different track for 1/10 and for 1/8. Problem solved!!!

who was there on the track first ?
i guess the one who was there first has the previlege to run the car until someone comes up.
i myself wouldn't dare to put my 1/10th on the track if there was a 1/8th scale even if barry baker was driving the 1/8th !

Separate tracks for different scales? For gas and electrics too? For Stock and Mods too? Tracks aren't cheap

Who was there first? You mean which car was put on the track first OR who came earlier? If I had put my car ON the track first but then my HP rang and I chatted on the phone for a whole 20 minutes (and all the while the car sat on the track and I stood at the drivers' stand), does the other guy then get to run his car while I'm on the phone (which he could not tell how long it would last). And when I hung up, he had to quickly get his car off the track? ----- unless I am missing something -----

Anyone else got a better idea?

Hehe... Nope. Just need to separate 1/8 with 1/10 (both gas and electric).... BTW, do you know that 1/10 electrics are faster than 1/10 nitro touring with rubber tires??

If it's Saturday, the people who come the track must see what kind of race will be held on Sunday. If it's 1/10 nitro, all the people who not drove this kind of car must give a chance to the people who's drove this kind of car . Hell....I often drive 1/8 on-road too, even when Sunday there's gonna be another type of class, I'm usually give those people who want to race tomorrow a little slack!!! I only start up my 1/8 when the track is completely clear. And when those guys want to practice again, I pull my 1/8 to the pit. A simple as that......So next time you see a guy put an attitude like Mr.X case, That guy is simply an A@$*&%e!!!!!

Another good idea from Mr. Juki...

How about this, something I picked up from some track in HK.

The low of the hour hh:00 - hh:29 --> 1/8th has the privilege
The high of the hour hh:30 - hh:59 --> 1/10th has the privilege

Now, it would be useless to have rules without penalties wouldn’t it? Have you guys thought about what if we actually come up with something on the rules. What’s for penalties when somebody are in violation of it?

Example: I’m running 1/8th and it’s 10:18, low of the hour, therefore I have the privilege. If a crash took place like in the case of Mr. X with his 1/10th, regardless of how it happened and whose car was damaged the most, the 1/10th driver must pay for all damages. Whereas if it was, say, 15:35, high of the hour, then I would have been the one to pay. How much? Well, all repairs must be done by any of the three hobby shops in Senayan, whereby they determine the cost of the repair.

It’s just an idea. What else can we do? A gallon of fuel per violation?
But I’m sure you guys would agree that without penalties no rules will prevail.

Again, remember IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU because we have not seen Barry Baker so far at Senayan, it has always been some other guy.

First of all I was there when the accident happened.

From what I knew, Mr.X was running the car from the pit area, not in the driver stand. His car did not use bodyshell, and he stopped the car on the side line of the straight line.

If Mr.X were in the driver stand he could simply told the 1/8 driver that his car was on the straight. Moreover if a bodyshell has been in place it could at least make the car more visible or more prone to damage.

Well the 1/8 driver was not a good driver either. He has all the wide open space on the straight, but still he drove on the very side of the track. All was like in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yes, we need a separate track.

separate track is the better idea.

most important thing is understanding rules which are not posted or wrote. playing r/c car at public place such as JITC meaning we 'must' appreciates somebody else.
a good example comes from 2 or 3 eletric player, they are always asking frequency and confirming what kind of car others use.

i think not only separate track but we need rules also. e.g. playing at separate track but on the same freq, could be disaster also.

Rules are good. I could not agree more.
BUT... what if the rules got breached. You know what they say, rules are made to be broken. Even if there are separate tracks, what's going to keep anybody from running the wrong scale on the wrong track. I know, it's called P E N A L T I E S.

And yes, how can we get whoever is in charge to persistently ask drivers to write down frequencies. It'll save us all a lot of trouble and money too. If whiteboard and markers don't seem to be the popular choice let's try something else and start thinking what that might be.

penalties? forget about it.

rules to be broke? c'mon S'Bunch, we must think in positive way. rules or regulations is only guidance. it's up to us whether would like to follow or not.

if they don't intend to make such rules, that is find. players can make their own rules.

S'Bunch, i do not know you, at the moment, but have you ever go to JITC on Saturday morning? some electric driver had shown their appreciation with other driver. they can play together with 1/10 nitro even 1/8 nitro at 1 track, without any problems.
they will wait till nitro driver finish with 1 or 2 tanks, then they go together.

i saw on last electric race, at the end of the party, some electric driver still running their car counter clock wise. 1 nitro driver playing in vise versa.....he he he....he did not even wait till the electric driver finish. lucky no crash.

we need rules, we need guidance. who will make? track manager laah....

penalties? forget about it.

rules to be broke? c'mon S'Bunch, we must think in positive way. rules or regulations is only guidance. it's up to us whether would like to follow or not.

if they don't intend to make such rules, that is find. players can make their own rules.

S'Bunch, i do not know you, at the moment, but have you ever go to JITC on Saturday morning? some electric driver had shown their appreciation with other driver. they can play together with 1/10 nitro even 1/8 nitro at 1 track, without any problems.
they will wait till nitro driver finish with 1 or 2 tanks, then they go together.

i saw on last electric race, at the end of the party, some electric driver still running their car counter clock wise. 1 nitro driver playing in vise versa.....he he he....he did not even wait till the electric driver finish. lucky no crash.

we need rules, we need guidance. who will make? track manager laah....

Emang susah sih kalo semua orang pada seenaknya aja....