190mm vs 200mm On-Road EP classes?
#1
190mm vs 200mm On-Road EP classes?
Hi I'm looking for a rundown of the some of the RC car classes i've seen. More so for different car type classes not motor specs (stock/ mod/ etc). For 1/10 EP on-road I have seen a 190mm car and a 200mm car. What are the unique points/ pro's of each car chassis class vs each-other.
I've seen serpent have a Serpent NATRIX 748-e which is the 1/10 scale electric powered 200mm racecar, then they have the 411 Eryx which is 190mm (which appears WAY more common). Should i assume these cars are always racing in different classes and never meet on track (under normal circumstance)?
- Are 200mm cars generally a foam tires and is this the class that runs more realistic body shells/ wheels (i.e. GT class?)? Is this class often run on asphalt or mainly carpet? Do most manufacturers make 200mm cars as i've only seen a few?
- Are 190mm cars generally a rubber tire/ asphalt class cars as per the usual I've seen (Mazda 5 shells, disc wheels)? Is there a 190mm class with realistic body's (GT class)? Is 190mm the most popular class of on-road worldwide?
- Of the two above in the same scenario/ motor/ etc, which is faster on the track? Is 200mm class common in many places as in Asia I've see 190mm cars being the norm?
- Where would 1/10 pan car (with GT bodies) fit in the mix speed and popularity wise vs the above?
- Speaking of Pan Cars it appears the premier main EP pan car class is 1/12. Would this be a correct assumption?
Thanks
I've seen serpent have a Serpent NATRIX 748-e which is the 1/10 scale electric powered 200mm racecar, then they have the 411 Eryx which is 190mm (which appears WAY more common). Should i assume these cars are always racing in different classes and never meet on track (under normal circumstance)?
- Are 200mm cars generally a foam tires and is this the class that runs more realistic body shells/ wheels (i.e. GT class?)? Is this class often run on asphalt or mainly carpet? Do most manufacturers make 200mm cars as i've only seen a few?
- Are 190mm cars generally a rubber tire/ asphalt class cars as per the usual I've seen (Mazda 5 shells, disc wheels)? Is there a 190mm class with realistic body's (GT class)? Is 190mm the most popular class of on-road worldwide?
- Of the two above in the same scenario/ motor/ etc, which is faster on the track? Is 200mm class common in many places as in Asia I've see 190mm cars being the norm?
- Where would 1/10 pan car (with GT bodies) fit in the mix speed and popularity wise vs the above?
- Speaking of Pan Cars it appears the premier main EP pan car class is 1/12. Would this be a correct assumption?
Thanks
#2
If not mistaken the 200mm Touring car is gas power and the 190mm is electric and therefore they would not race in the same class.
#3
yes, the 200m and 190mm is both different classes. 190 is the limited width of a 1/10 electric touring car. the 200mm is the width of 1/10 Nitro classes, the electric is just a conversion of the 200mm.
200mm cars are generally foam tires only. the 190mm offers more realistic bodys. 200 is always run on aspgalt as they destrot the carpet with their nitro engines(probably) there are a fewer manufacturers for 1/10 200mm than 190mm.
I would say that 190 class is the most popular onroad class right now. we use rubber tires on both asphalt and carpet with 190mm bodys.
a 190mm is faster on track with same tires as a 200mm.
i think 1/10 pan cars have a long way to go in popularity worldwide were 1/10 touring class is the king. But this also depends on area, in the US pan cars are very popular.
cheers// www.andrefossto.wordpress.com
200mm cars are generally foam tires only. the 190mm offers more realistic bodys. 200 is always run on aspgalt as they destrot the carpet with their nitro engines(probably) there are a fewer manufacturers for 1/10 200mm than 190mm.
I would say that 190 class is the most popular onroad class right now. we use rubber tires on both asphalt and carpet with 190mm bodys.
a 190mm is faster on track with same tires as a 200mm.
i think 1/10 pan cars have a long way to go in popularity worldwide were 1/10 touring class is the king. But this also depends on area, in the US pan cars are very popular.
cheers// www.andrefossto.wordpress.com
#4
the 200mm cars are converted gas cars, in the past (as with most conversions) started by people who also want to run these cars on moments no noise polution can be made but also by people who can not understand a nitro engine.
Today some brands do make a dedicated electric version or provide a conversion kit. But there is no real race class for it. Well... electric 1/8 buggy there is and for 1/8 onroad organisations are promoting it, but nothing for the 200mm.
You also have to be aware the 200mm cars do run with 2mm smaller front tires so no rubber tires can be runned unles you try to fix the transmission for an all 4 equal size tire.
Today some brands do make a dedicated electric version or provide a conversion kit. But there is no real race class for it. Well... electric 1/8 buggy there is and for 1/8 onroad organisations are promoting it, but nothing for the 200mm.
You also have to be aware the 200mm cars do run with 2mm smaller front tires so no rubber tires can be runned unles you try to fix the transmission for an all 4 equal size tire.
#5
Tech Regular
Yes the 200mm scale came from nitro sedans, but they are the standard for VTA and USGT
electric classes now. A true sedan body like the Speed 6 is for a true 190mm. One of the body designers recently said they shoot for clearance in the wheel wells to be around 196 mm so you can run any body by swapping the wheel hex. Usually having both 4mm and 6mm wheel hexes will cover it. Most scale 200mm bodies fit everything, but a few supercar bodies are pan car only, like the Protoform Sophia and the HPI Pagani Zonda and the group C cars. They hit the front shock towers on a sedan.
1/10 200mm Pan cars are the WGT and WGT-R cars. The WGT with spec foam tires was the probably the best handling cars. They were easy and fun to drive fast. You need a tire truer that cost several hundred dollars to run the class and that killed it. The WGT-R can't be hucked into a corner like a foam tired can, but the rubber tires tires last all year. So that is the class now.
A foam tire truer is the only thing the Chinese can't clone.
electric classes now. A true sedan body like the Speed 6 is for a true 190mm. One of the body designers recently said they shoot for clearance in the wheel wells to be around 196 mm so you can run any body by swapping the wheel hex. Usually having both 4mm and 6mm wheel hexes will cover it. Most scale 200mm bodies fit everything, but a few supercar bodies are pan car only, like the Protoform Sophia and the HPI Pagani Zonda and the group C cars. They hit the front shock towers on a sedan.
1/10 200mm Pan cars are the WGT and WGT-R cars. The WGT with spec foam tires was the probably the best handling cars. They were easy and fun to drive fast. You need a tire truer that cost several hundred dollars to run the class and that killed it. The WGT-R can't be hucked into a corner like a foam tired can, but the rubber tires tires last all year. So that is the class now.
A foam tire truer is the only thing the Chinese can't clone.
#6
??? Intek? or Integy? had a cheapo truer. Local track has 3 of them. Even Ebay has some cheapo's:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Racing-Auto...4AAOSw7hRWQGyY
No idea why some people got so wussified around truers. Way, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier and cheaper than gluing 1/10th and 1/8th offroad tires. I actually enjoy trueing tires.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Racing-Auto...4AAOSw7hRWQGyY
No idea why some people got so wussified around truers. Way, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier and cheaper than gluing 1/10th and 1/8th offroad tires. I actually enjoy trueing tires.
#8
Tech Regular
??? Intek? or Integy? had a cheapo truer. Local track has 3 of them. Even Ebay has some cheapo's:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Racing-Auto...4AAOSw7hRWQGyY
No idea why some people got so wussified around truers. Way, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier and cheaper than gluing 1/10th and 1/8th offroad tires. I actually enjoy trueing tires.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Racing-Auto...4AAOSw7hRWQGyY
No idea why some people got so wussified around truers. Way, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier and cheaper than gluing 1/10th and 1/8th offroad tires. I actually enjoy trueing tires.
I do miss foam tires though. They just feel better with my driving style. Must be the 30,000 laps I ran in 13.5 foam sedan before the class went away.
#9
Tech Master
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Thanks, that's a nice truer, but $225 + $86 shipping still seems like several hundred to me. Most guys I know are waiting for something around $150.
I do miss foam tires though. They just feel better with my driving style. Must be the 30,000 laps I ran in 13.5 foam sedan before the class went away.
I do miss foam tires though. They just feel better with my driving style. Must be the 30,000 laps I ran in 13.5 foam sedan before the class went away.