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you also need to think of the weight transfer. The rear will decompress under braking right before turn in.
The initial thinking is "great, I'll run lower toe for the straights and then use ARS to increase it when cornering" but the catch is under heavy breaking when the car pitches forward you then get less toe on initial turn in and then it increases as you power down round the corner (if running 0-1mm shims that is) - this can be quite different feeling at first. |
Anyone Uses TiN Coated Shock Shafts?
Precision Machined TiN Coated Shock Shaft (2) for C25910 Competition Shock for R/C or RC - Team Integy |
I do not. But I also do not feel the need. The shocks are the smoothest I know. Just rebuild them at least every three months and change bladders and o-rings. Then they are perfect. I just did that when I converted my car from 15 to 17 Version and was surprised how much smoother they are than (new) Tamiya TRF Shocks.
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Great explanation, thanks very much!
Originally Posted by TryHard
(Post 14890671)
Just to add to this, if you set the ARS up with no shims under either inside or outside ball positions, it actually adds toe-in under compression, at around 1° at 5.2mm ride height (how much it adds depends how much the car compresses, obviously ;) )
Adding shims reduces the amount added (1mm under one of the links gives about 0.5°), until the link has 2mm worth of shims (1mm either side, or 2mm on one side) makes the ARS neutral. Adding more shims then turns it into reducing toe in under compression. Whilst that might sound a bit backwards, it's actually not quite as simple as it sounds. By having the links to add toe, you gain forward traction. Also consider as the car rolls, the inside wheel is in negative compression, and the outside in compression. So the inside is toe-ing out, and the outside toe-ing in, so the whole rear is then 'steering' in the direction of the turn. Obviously the inside wheel has a lot less influence than the outside as it's far less loaded, but the effect is still there. In recent running on a technical, medium grip asphalt track, I preferred 1mm of shims on the link. No shims tended to make the car a bit pushy on power, whilst 2mm was too loose. 1mm was a good compromise. Having said that, I did find that ARS whilst ultimately was a little quicker, it wasn't as consistent to drive as a traditional rear end.... but that's the next challenge, to try and improve the consistency. Ed |
Is this the best for asphalt parking lot racing?
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Of course it is and you will can the same answer in the other threads you ask!
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I really want to get into asphalt week day local racing. I just want to find a good competitive 13.5 car on rubber tires.
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Alloy Rear Hubs?
Are the alloy rear hubs comparable in handling with the carbon ones? I'm on med traction asphalt. Bedworth Raceway in the U.K. to be exact!
Alloy hub is 4.3g Plastic is 2.5g I run titanium ball studs and outer suspension pins so I'm thinking weight of either might be quite close. Thx! :tire: |
Originally Posted by Nspenc6
(Post 14893804)
I really want to get into asphalt week day local racing. I just want to find a good competitive 13.5 car on rubber tires.
You can't go wrong with the Xray T4 2017. |
Hi All,
What size is the o-ring inside the body mount adjustment cap? I want to replace my caps but the replacements don't come with the o-ring. Thx for replying. |
T4 17 Spareparts to have in the toolbox
Hi all,
I am just about to finish my new T4 17 build. Could anyone recommend what spareparts to carry in the toolbox? Car would be run mainly in 17.5 boosted class. Thanks in advance. |
Hubs and arms. One of each is enough. In five seasons I just needed one front arm and one front and rear hub.
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Originally Posted by wtcc
(Post 14898710)
Hubs and arms. One of each is enough. In five seasons I just needed one front arm and one front and rear hub.
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Sway Bars - UK Outdoors
For the outdoors season in the UK have you switched to the softer sway bar setup? I'm talking 3f 2r.
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Looking for some info on the graphite chassis What is the benefit or draw back to using graphite chassis on high bite carpet
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