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cplus 10-10-2016 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by TryHard (Post 14698578)
Built up my '17 last night... as expected, went together effortlessly.

Having looked at a few posts about a battery back stop, and taking inspiration from a post on the T4 facebook page, came up with this simple solution.

Uses a spare servo post and a 8mm M3 screw. Space the forward (servo mount) stop out 5mm, and you get a nice straight battery...

We should get Bezerk to cut some carbon ones up.

Or maybe use of m broken L brackets from the lipo stop...!

vabroom 10-10-2016 07:42 PM

TryHard,

Best solution I have seen! thx

TryHard 10-10-2016 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by cplus (Post 14698858)
We should get Bezerk to cut some carbon ones up.

Or maybe use of m broken L brackets from the lipo stop...!

The issue with a carbon piece is it needs a nut or similar to hold it in place. The servo mount is threaded.. :sneaky:

A Ilievski 10-10-2016 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by cplus (Post 14698858)
We should get Bezerk to cut some carbon ones up.

Or maybe use of m broken L brackets from the lipo stop...!

Or you can just use a 5g weight and use that in place. Simple and easy.....

B00t13g 10-10-2016 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by A Ilievski (Post 14698936)
Or you can just use a 5g weight and use that in place. Simple and easy.....

This.

TryHard 10-10-2016 10:42 PM

Unless you actually want to use all the posts in the centre... ;)

Skiddins 10-11-2016 01:27 AM


Originally Posted by TryHard (Post 14699009)
Unless you actually want to use all the posts in the centre... ;)

This. :lol:

daveaustin5 10-11-2016 04:36 AM

Has anyone got a quick idiots guide to 'in-line chassis flex'?

There are 5 settings on the new car which are outlined here: https://teamxray.com/t4/2017/en/#16

Which settings are suitable to which track types?

wkderf 10-11-2016 10:52 AM

in regards to the battery backstop issue:

There is a servo mount from Xray that is more suited to be used as a battery backstop. Its also a servo mount, but is shorter than the black one being used, which means less weight & more clearance for the top deck.

Part number 376255. 2 mounts are included from Xray in the package and while it may be a few bucks more more, it weighs less, matches better, and you could sell / trade with someone else who also needs a backstop solution for their T4.

Here are the 2 servo mounts side by side:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/IMG_8841.jpg

and the shorter mount installed into the car:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...213ACC46E0.jpg

to achieve the right spacing, I used 3.5mm worth of spacers, in addition to the cone washer for the screw.

wkderf 10-11-2016 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by daveaustin5 (Post 14699114)
Has anyone got a quick idiots guide to 'in-line chassis flex'?

There are 5 settings on the new car which are outlined here: https://teamxray.com/t4/2017/en/#16

Which settings are suitable to which track types?

i would say that generally speaking, you are adding stiffness as you increase the number of screws & attachment points, which in turn will increase traction across the entire car for higher grip surfaces, though the final solution listed (turnbuckle mount) is an exception, as this increases stiffness lengthwise across the chassis, but allows flex horizontally. Im interested to try this method, as I think it will improve out of corner acceleration, but not impede in corner steering.

R Dodge 10-11-2016 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by wkderf (Post 14699453)
in regards to the battery backstop issue:

There is a servo mount from Xray that is more suited to be used as a battery backstop. Its also a servo mount, but is shorter than the black one being used, which means less weight & more clearance for the top deck.

Part number 376255. 2 mounts are included from Xray in the package and while it may be a few bucks more more, it weighs less, matches better, and you could sell / trade with someone else who also needs a backstop solution for their T4.

Here are the 2 servo mounts side by side:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/IMG_8841.jpg

and the shorter mount installed into the car:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...213ACC46E0.jpg

to achieve the right spacing, I used 3.5mm worth of spacers, in addition to the cone washer for the screw.

I use one of those short servo mounts on the other side to mount the fan to the bulkhead so it is floating behind the motor.

wkderf 10-11-2016 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by R Dodge (Post 14699468)
I use one of those short servo mounts on the other side to mount the fan to the bulkhead so it is floating behind the motor.

do u screw it to the motor mount / layshaft bulkhead? or to the chassis? curious to see your setup.

Barry_Hughes 10-11-2016 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by wkderf (Post 14699453)
in regards to the battery backstop issue:

There is a servo mount from Xray that is more suited to be used as a battery backstop. Its also a servo mount, but is shorter than the black one being used, which means less weight & more clearance for the top deck.

Part number 376255. 2 mounts are included from Xray in the package and while it may be a few bucks more more, it weighs less, matches better, and you could sell / trade with someone else who also needs a backstop solution for their T4.

Here are the 2 servo mounts side by side:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/IMG_8841.jpg

and the shorter mount installed into the car:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...213ACC46E0.jpg

to achieve the right spacing, I used 3.5mm worth of spacers, in addition to the cone washer for the screw.

Difference is you are mounting the post on the motor flex plate which means you are affecting the flex characteristics by using one of the flex holes.
Ed's (Try Hard) is mounted off the layshaft holder so will not affect the flex because it is totally independent of the motor flex plate which to me seems are far better way

wkderf 10-11-2016 12:56 PM

the screw hole I am using is the one which is not threaded. It is the screw that passes through the motor mount and is normally secured with a nut. This solution simply replaces that nut with a servo mount. The affect on the chassis is identical.

There are obviously many ways to solve this problem. This is just one possible solution. I do not make any claim that it is better or worse than any others, I was merely stating that when it comes to the parts used, the shorter servo mount from Xray may make more sense to use.

Barry_Hughes 10-11-2016 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by wkderf (Post 14699573)
the screw hole I am using is the one which is not threaded. It is the screw that passes through the motor mount and is normally secured with a nut. This solution simply replaces that nut with a servo mount. The affect on the chassis is identical.

There are obviously many ways to solve this problem. This is just one possible solution. I do not make any claim that it is better or worse than any others, I was merely stating that when it comes to the parts used, the shorter servo mount from Xray may make more sense to use.

Not if you do not use the nut, looking at a lot of the team set ups the nut is not used, I very rarely run with nut on, it has also been stated by some of the team drivers the nut should not been tightened but left with a bit of play.


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