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RayWarner 12-25-2005 09:28 PM

The Dirt switched teams? Kinwald goes to Tekin?
 
Just saw this on Tekin's web site! What Happened? Team Tekin

losirunner 12-25-2005 09:30 PM

wow.... i still dont like Tekin.....

Bobby J 12-25-2005 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by RayWarner
Just saw this on Tekin's web site! What Happened? Team Tekin

next he will be running for br00d..lol just kidding eddieo..lol...its all good

howard hudson 12-25-2005 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by losirunner
wow.... i still dont like Tekin.....

:lol: :lol:

Brian McGreevy 12-25-2005 11:15 PM

Wow...heck of an addition to our growing team!

EddieO 12-25-2005 11:45 PM

I wish.......

This doesn't suprise me......Novak has been removed from his signature for a few weeks now....

Later EddieO

Mdoc 12-25-2005 11:48 PM

I hope this is a sign that he will be racing again soon......

Soviet 12-26-2005 12:12 AM

I'm waiting for Tekin to release an ALL NEW product that doesn't resemble any of their early 1990's offerings before considering a purchase.

That single act will make me feel safe spending my dough on a Tekin product.

Hodapp 12-26-2005 12:41 AM

Congrats to Brian for his new deal. Also congrats to Tekin for picking up one of the greatest drivers that RC has ever seen!.....

Good luck to both!!!!

There is a lot to be said for a company that stands behind an employee when they are sick and recovering.........

StephenSobottka 12-26-2005 07:26 AM

Welcome to the team BK!

Mission_carbon 12-26-2005 07:31 AM

I have always aporved of Tekin and there products alot better than Novak in my view. Good swap there Mr Bk

speedemall 12-26-2005 07:43 AM

I have owned 3 of Tekins esc's in the past good childhood memories my favorite though was the formula 10.I loved that when you blew it all you had to do was solder a spot lol

King of B Main 12-26-2005 08:34 AM

Congrats bk and I hope you start feeling better.

Barracuda Man 12-26-2005 12:19 PM

Who knows, maybe Tekin will release a new smaller sized ESC. BK will be a great spokesperson for the Company.

Antonio Sabato 12-26-2005 12:28 PM

WOW :weird:

DuraTrax/Tekin in 2006!

BobbyDoyle 12-26-2005 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Antonio Sabato
WOW :weird:

DuraTrax/Tekin in 2006!

:lol:

burbs 12-26-2005 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Soviet
I'm waiting for Tekin to release an ALL NEW product that doesn't resemble any of their early 1990's offerings before considering a purchase.

That single act will make me feel safe spending my dough on a Tekin product.


Its to bad you think that way..Your only hurting yourself.. Im curious why does something have to look totally different to work better??? If you look at your rc history Tekin has Always been the flagship when performance was needed.. the out lasted and out performed evey other esc in there era.. There still doing it today..

burbs 12-26-2005 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Barracuda Man
Who knows, maybe Tekin will release a new smaller sized ESC. BK will be a great spokesperson for the Company.


Why do they need a smaller esc?? weigh a GTX with cap, and weigh a Tekin G10/G11.. the Gtx weighs more. a few grams more..

DA_cookie_monst 12-26-2005 01:57 PM

In the end, in some ways these guys are right, the G10 and 11 are of the OLD Tekin from Keving Orton, but only the footprint and general outlay inside the case. A good part of the circuitry is new and the components are Definately top quality. You just got to look at what is in development at the moment.

10th Brushless system, 18th mini Brushed system, charger, 18th cell equaliser (not seen ANY of them yet form anywhere else), they have also brought out the 10th scale Equaliser which is far better than anything I have tried and the 18th brushless system is AWESOME.

You have got to give Tekin a chance, it started well, Kev Orton is no longer anything to do with Tekin YET the new people are looking after the guys with the old stuff to, like doing an upgrade for chargers to do NiMH.

I think Brian Kinwald has seen the future, and the future is Tekin, whether he is racing or not at international level, I think Brian can give feedback and give the Tekin name some much needed higher level of publicity it deserves.

So, before you neigh sayers put Tekin down, give them a chance to see what the new owners can do.

Soviet 12-26-2005 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by burbs
Its to bad you think that way..Your only hurting yourself.. Im curious why does something have to look totally different to work better??? If you look at your rc history Tekin has Always been the flagship when performance was needed.. the out lasted and out performed evey other esc in there era.. There still doing it today..


I'm simply waiting for Tekin to prove to me that they'll stay around for good this time. I don't trust a company that just re-emerges from the grave and pedals rebadged / older products. Novak obviously destroyed Tekin back in the early 90's. Now they are simply re-releasing old product. That tells me that they lack certain production capabilities at the moment. Of course once they produce an all new charger with modern capabilities, I'll begin to look at Tekin as a serious competitor.

Just my opinion of course.

Matt Howard 12-26-2005 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Soviet
Novak obviously destroyed Tekin back in the early 90's.

Just my opinion of course.

Novak didn't destroy Tekin, Tekin destroyed Tekin. Ask anyone that's ever had a conversation with Mr. Orton

DA_cookie_monst 12-26-2005 02:16 PM

the mini-RAGE is an all new product, and so is the 10th Brushless in testing at the moment, and the battery equaliser. They bought the rights to Tekin, and rather than sitting on it for a couple of years to develope new stuff, they upgraded older stuff in the meantime developing new stuff. The new owners are not going anywhere and are in it for the long haul.

I guess you best watch their website and listen for future releases.

As for old tech, my G11 is as good as ANY of the latest esc's and just SO easy to program.

Soviet 12-26-2005 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by DA_cookie_monst
the mini-RAGE is an all new product, and so is the 10th Brushless in testing at the moment, and the battery equaliser. They bought the rights to Tekin, and rather than sitting on it for a couple of years to develope new stuff, they upgraded older stuff in the meantime developing new stuff. The new owners are not going anywhere and are in it for the long haul.

I guess you best watch their website and listen for future releases.

As for old tech, my G11 is as good as ANY of the latest esc's and just SO easy to program.


I'm just waiting... ;)

MattW 12-26-2005 02:46 PM

Matt H is so correct. I never met the guy personally, but anyone you speak to that was around (and knew what was actually going on) will tell you the same. Electronic guru - yes. Business man???

ChadCapece 12-26-2005 03:11 PM

I'm with Soviet on this one. Until they come out with a micro ESC, I'm staying away.

Michal101 12-26-2005 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Soviet
I'm simply waiting for Tekin to prove to me that they'll stay around for good this time. I don't trust a company that just re-emerges from the grave and pedals rebadged / older products. Novak obviously destroyed Tekin back in the early 90's. Now they are simply re-releasing old product. That tells me that they lack certain production capabilities at the moment. Of course once they produce an all new charger with modern capabilities, I'll begin to look at Tekin as a serious competitor.

Just my opinion of course.

Soviet,

Matt Howard is right on with his statement. Mr. Orton was not a businessman at all and Novak just pushed Tekin to produce better products. The G11 is a new speedo. Just because it looks very similar to its predecessors does not mean a thing. It is the circuitry and the software that makes the difference.

I also have met and know the new owner very well and am involved with their product development outside of the fine state of Idaho.

Remember you are only as good as your competition.

So Soviet, your premise for your opinion is severely flawed!!! (J/K) :D

David Alberico 12-26-2005 04:49 PM

Tekin products are awesome, BK is a great addition.

vabroom 12-26-2005 05:37 PM

hmmm, I know I'm getting of the subject, but I'm waiting for BK to switch to Kyosho. He will have a chance to become the first to win the worlds for 3 different makers.

AdrianM 12-26-2005 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Howard
Novak didn't destroy Tekin, Tekin destroyed Tekin. Ask anyone that's ever had a conversation with Mr. Orton

Yup...I have heard the stories :eek: :eek: :eek:

I started out with a Tekin ESC 300 almost 20 years ago. I had 411's, P12's and G12's. They were all great and never failed.

I am pulling for them but like other racers I would like to see some new era stuff. KO and Keyence have really raised the bar as to want a speedo can do and they are very small foot print units. I know Tekin can do it....they just need to do it.

RayWarner 12-26-2005 07:34 PM

In my opinion, Tekin is doing a great job. They were gone for awhile but now they are back and in full force. I've seen first hand what the new G11 can do. The footprint is a little big, so what? I understand that the car manufacturers are producing more narrow chassis. But Tekin doesn't require a diode or cap to run. These all take up space. Tekin supports their drivers. A few of the TEAM drivers race at my home track, they rave about the "family atmosphere". When they have a question or idea they talk to the BOSS. Can't say this is true of every other manufacture!! And as far as commitment? Hello!!! Just signed MR. DIRT!! They must be serious and thinking long term. As for me I ask, "Need any Team drivers?" Keep up the good work Tekin! :tire:

burbs 12-26-2005 07:59 PM

I used a tekin g 10 this year to Tq and place second at the noorca paved nats.. I guess i was using a old technology speedo .. exept if the tekin worked that well against what is out there now it just shows how far ahead they were at the time.. there new stuff is going to be as far ahead as the old.. look at there website. they have already put up some big wins and finishes..

its funny someone mentions there chargers being to old.. yet you go to any big race and walk the pits ill bet you see a bunch of CE turbo thirty's..How old are they??

I hope they do stay around.. Taking on a big name like kinwld shows they have grat intentions.. i doubt anyone would persue a big name to leave them out in the end..

dawgmeat 12-26-2005 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by AdrianM
Yup...I have heard the stories :eek: :eek: :eek:

I started out with a Tekin ESC 300 almost 20 years ago. I had 411's, P12's and G12's. They were all great and never failed.

I am pulling for them but like other racers I would like to see some new era stuff. KO and Keyence have really raised the bar as to want a speedo can do and they are very small foot print units. I know Tekin can do it....they just need to do it.

Good Lord how old are you? :eek: :lol:

burbs 12-26-2005 08:13 PM

Also everyone keep s briging up its size.. if you notice every super small esc requires an external power cap.. most of them are huge.. the tekin does not require this.. Take you small esc and glue the big ole cap to the side then measure it.. its very similar in size..

The way i see it the smaller the esc the less quality it is.. yes it may perform well, but i have a buddy who runs mod.. Open up his desk drawer and you wil find at least 8-10 quantums that burnt up , as well as a few novaks..

the smaller speedos use les fets, but with a higher rating.. this means they have to work harder.. the tekin is filled with fets.. more fets less work and more efficiency...

i belive tekin also had the first programable esc ever..

MPrincip 12-26-2005 10:03 PM

I agree with Adrian...

After being a team driver for Tekin in the mid 90's running off-road. I always liked Tekin Products and NEVER ..I repeat NEVER had an issue with there chargers or there speedo's. And I ran the G-10 before they were available.

I am also pulling for the new owners of TEKIN to turn it around and wish them the best of luck. Novak was not Tekin's problem.. Kevin was Tekin's Problem. At one time Misami ran for Tekin.. Tony Neisinger used to run and work for Tekin. Over the years Tekin has done alot for the sport of RC.

I would like to see new development, some new designs or software for there chargers. But things take time.

PS: CE Turbo Thirties may be old.. but they do update there software to accomidate the with new cells.

Just my $.02 :D

Soviet 12-26-2005 10:14 PM

Don't get me wrong....I'm pulling for them...I really am. I'm just waiting a bit. :D

King of B Main 12-26-2005 10:18 PM

I dont think Bk would just put anything in his car. He must of tested it and believes it can put him in the winner circle.

mini-dub 12-26-2005 10:35 PM

There's something more to be said in the big esc vs small esc with cap argument... with a esc that requires a cap you can position the cap in any location you want. Heck you could put it on your bumper if you wanted :lol: . With a big speed control though, you cant just take 1/2 of the speedo and cut it off and put it on top of the case can you. I'm not saying I like big caps, but I'd rather have a small esc and a cap and a big esc and no cap.

As for Adrians age...... IIIIII'd say 42! :eek:

Keith Billanti 12-26-2005 10:41 PM

I am very intrigued with this whole deal. My first ESC was a Tekin back in 1992. I loved their chargers.. hopefully they are around for good. Actually, now that i think of it.. I think they still have a G10 of mine that dropped dead.. LMAO..

I am currently sportin all LRP stuff (chargers and esc's).. but maybe that will change..

KBpower

Brian McGreevy 12-26-2005 10:56 PM

KB, I gotta make sure I have a camera the next time you have a few beers in you...the champs was hilarious..

And yes...the new Tekin stuff rocks. The G11 Pro is every bit as advanced as any other speedo out, if not more. It is easy to use and has plenty of rip. Dirt wouldn't leave novak for a lesser product ;)

StephenSobottka 12-26-2005 11:38 PM

Yep, I like the fact that I can change as etting as I am gridding the car if something doesn't feel right on the practice lap. I had to use it for the last qualifier in 19t at Cleveland this year. Changing the settings is super easy.


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