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Awesomatix A800/A800R

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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)

Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases

January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates

AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)

Below OLD Rear Motor Content ---
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A800 Information

New Parts

June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.

Kit Updates

May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)

Setups

Major Race Wins

2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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03-29-2019, 08:19 PM

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I only found 1 USGT carpet setup on Petit. Does anyone have some guidance or a setup for asphalt?

03-30-2019, 10:08 AM

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Hi everyone,

Do you know where to find the Mid conversion kit in stock in the US?

Thanks,

03-30-2019, 11:35 AM

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Are u looking for carbon lower deck or aluminium?

03-30-2019, 11:41 AM

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Ryan Maker has in stock mid-conversion. Check it out on rcmaker

03-30-2019, 07:21 PM

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Looks like he is out of stock of the aluminum mmcx conversion kit.

03-31-2019, 05:20 AM

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Hi everyone,

Do you know where to find the Mid conversion kit in stock in the US?

Thanks,

Even the manufacturer was out of stock
I'd recommend you back order at Awesomatix USA. This way you'll get it when they do arrive.

03-31-2019, 09:41 PM

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Going from a short arm setup to a long arm is there any way to get comparable rollcenters right now with front +1.5 I have standard balls on the chassis and 3mil up top with 1.75 on the hub . Going the the +9 what would be comparable or just leave it

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04-01-2019, 04:57 AM

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No science yet... Maybe Oleg has some.

LA cars seem to like higher roll centers (0.5 to 1mm) more than std or even 1.5 arms

04-01-2019, 06:19 AM

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Calculations showed that our long arms need ~0,5mm less shims under lower inner AT21 balls to get the same roll center as it was with +1,5 arms. But our initial test of long arms on track showed that the car was better without this correction of the lower balls.
So it seems that our long arms are better at a bit higher roll centers than it was with normal arms.

04-01-2019, 11:55 AM

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I've been waiting to drive my Evo MMCX all winter, as I prefer asphalt. First time driving the car after switching from AE. This car feels so good. Any apprehension I had about going MM despite never running the standard layout, is gone. Took TQ, but unfortunately didn't finish A main due to the setscrew falling out of the pinon. Someone told me I need to shave the chassis to motor slightly to make sure the motor is flush? I have a feeling it was simply bad luck.

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04-02-2019, 12:18 PM

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Hello, how many race days are people going between changing shock seals with the new high durability seals? Since the seals are sold in single packs it seems that they are not intended to be replaced super often but I’m curious as to other’s opinions.

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04-03-2019, 05:47 AM

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Depends on your motor and how you have it mounted. With a MC2 I either had to shim the motor out or clock it so the bottom endbell screw wouldn't hit the chassis cutout. You could grind the cutout longer for clearance if you wanted.

Motors like the Can-Am Stock motor have a flush endbell so it's not an issue...

04-03-2019, 06:42 AM

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Grind the screw head at a 45 degree angle and problem solved on the MC2. Or do what we do just take that screw out. Never had a problem ever doing it that way...

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04-03-2019, 07:25 AM

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People buy these like crazy.... But I don't see why
My orings stay in the car until the car is sold or oring is dropped on the floor

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04-03-2019, 09:30 AM

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i've ran my car for almost 3 months now with club racing every friday, plus practice and 3 major races, they are still intact and not leaking. I think the new rubber is definitely doing a better job at holding oil in the shocks. I would say change them when you see one shock starting to leak.

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