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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 02-05-2018, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scytherat
Has anyone fitted an a800x chassis plate to an a800?
Yes. You will need at a minimum the A800X sway bar parts to do this
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Originally Posted by hanulec
For droop you have two options--

1. Have a perfect car (mechanically) and use the droop block method
2. Use the droop over ride height method

#2 is the most common in the USA. It can help mask / make up for any bent parts
Is there a video or an explanation as how to do the droop over ride height method?
Is it done using the setup wheels or the racing wheel?

Sorry if I seem slow in comprehension.
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Originally Posted by nogarats
Is there a video or an explanation as how to do the droop over ride height method?
Is it done using the setup wheels or the racing wheel?

Sorry if I seem slow in comprehension.
I did a video many moons ago... https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1s&v=OQt6iv175mw
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I did a video many moons ago... https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1s&v=OQt6iv175mw
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New to the AMX car. Picked up a A800Xa - I have just went through the car and setup per the manual. I will be running on low grip grey ozite and typically we run the rear softer than the front. The manual setup feels pretty stiff in the rear - is this normal? Anyone have a decent starting point for low grip?

Or just start from manual and make adjustments?


Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by wrutherf
New to the AMX car. Picked up a A800Xa - I have just went through the car and setup per the manual. I will be running on low grip grey ozite and typically we run the rear softer than the front. The manual setup feels pretty stiff in the rear - is this normal? Anyone have a decent starting point for low grip?

Or just start from manual and make adjustments?


Thanks in advance.
Welcome to the AMX family! Lots to learn but its a fun process

I think its normal to have the rear stiffer than the front - otherwise the car will have a hard time rotating! In normal spring/damper cars you may run a softer spring in the rear but given the geometry, the rear should still be harder than the front.

I don't run carpet, but if I was, I'd probably pick up a setup from petit-rc and use that as the baseline.
e.g. Mad Max recently drove on what he's marked as Low-Medium carpet
Awesomatix A800XAH - Max Machler - GP3F - Longwy - 20-21.01.2018

Give it a shot and see how it goes
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Originally Posted by WagwanBumba
Welcome to the AMX family! Lots to learn but its a fun process

I think its normal to have the rear stiffer than the front - otherwise the car will have a hard time rotating! In normal spring/damper cars you may run a softer spring in the rear but given the geometry, the rear should still be harder than the front.

I don't run carpet, but if I was, I'd probably pick up a setup from petit-rc and use that as the baseline.
e.g. Mad Max recently drove on what he's marked as Low-Medium carpet
Awesomatix A800XAH - Max Machler - GP3F - Longwy - 20-21.01.2018

Give it a shot and see how it goes
Thanks! - hoping to learn quite a bit - definitely unique car.
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Originally Posted by wrutherf
New to the AMX car. Picked up a A800Xa - I have just went through the car and setup per the manual. I will be running on low grip grey ozite and typically we run the rear softer than the front. The manual setup feels pretty stiff in the rear - is this normal? Anyone have a decent starting point for low grip?

Or just start from manual and make adjustments?


Thanks in advance.



I hope it worked but it's a setup from Brandon Clements on a low traction asphalt track. I run on a low bite grey office carpet and use sorex 28's and this by far was the best setup to be in the ball park. It is a carbon chassis which helps a ton and the other huge thing I messed with was the rear active toe..on low traction I run 2.75 toe in and as minimal active toe as possible at 4 short.

Also I tried 0 shims under the at21s or inside arm ball studs and it had ridiculous traction like not joking I popped a wheelie with it lol. It was to much though and my tires would get way to hot.
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Anyone have a 800xa they want to get rid of?
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Sure $650. Pm me
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Originally Posted by wrutherf
New to the AMX car. Picked up a A800Xa - I have just went through the car and setup per the manual. I will be running on low grip grey ozite and typically we run the rear softer than the front. The manual setup feels pretty stiff in the rear - is this normal? Anyone have a decent starting point for low grip?

Or just start from manual and make adjustments?


Thanks in advance.
Best starting point for low grip asphalt is ryan makers setup


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I have the stock LS1 steering rack and arms on my A800XA. I just received both the AM14LS arms and BSSX steering rack set-new part set. With the LS1 steering slider rack what steering arms am I supposed to use --AM14LS or stock?? When I try the A800 style bell crank steering what arms am I supposed to use??
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I have the stock LS1 steering rack and arms on my A800XA. I just received both the AM14LS arms and BSSX steering rack set-new part set. With the LS1 steering slider rack what steering arms am I supposed to use --AM14LS or stock?? When I try the A800 style bell crank steering what arms am I supposed to use??
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With BSSX steering rack the AM14LS are highly recommended on any surface.
With LS1 I recommend the AM14LS for asphalt and the stock AM14-3 arms for carpet.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
With BSSX steering rack the AM14LS are highly recommended on any surface.
With LS1 I recommend the AM14LS for asphalt and the stock AM14-3 arms for carpet.
Thanks for info.
Can Awesomatix build an F1 car, lol
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Thanks for info.
Can Awesomatix build an F1 car, lol
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Yes, we can.
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