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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 07-19-2019, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRacing80
Quick question to MMCX drivers here : what is the weight distribution obtained with the mid motor setup (with the esc behind the motor) ? I know it varies between different electronics used and added weight but I'm just looking for an estimation.
Most are back to nearly 50/50 or 51/49
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Originally Posted by TeamRacing80
Quick question to MMCX drivers here : what is the weight distribution obtained with the mid motor setup (with the esc behind the motor) ? I know it varies between different electronics used and added weight but I'm just looking for an estimation.
Sweet spot for asphalt and for ETS carpet is F49%/R51%.
+/-0,5% depending on driver's preferences for local conditions.
On CRC black carpet at very high traction - up to 1% more to front.
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Originally Posted by TeamRacing80
Quick question to MMCX drivers here : what is the weight distribution obtained with the mid motor setup (with the esc behind the motor) ? I know it varies between different electronics used and added weight but I'm just looking for an estimation.
I run 48.5/51.5 on pavement.

Black carpet: very close to 50/50 on the money, just a little heavier in the rear. I've never ran 51F/49R and that's not likely the way to go. This is grip dependent too, where more front weight might be more advantageous on higher grip tracks.
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Originally Posted by Sam Isaacs
I run 48.5/51.5 on pavement.

Black carpet: very close to 50/50 on the money, just a little heavier in the rear. I've never ran 51F/49R and that's not likely the way to go. This is grip dependent too, where more front weight might be more advantageous on higher grip tracks.
I know on black carpet the more to the rear we got the weight the faster matt was with his car but consisntancy is better closer to 50/50 so its a comprimize between the too
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Any suggestions to limit chassis drag on the sides? My car gets slower as the buildup starts. I can take the car off, wipe the chassis and go back out and gain .2. Got the car down to 11.4's and an occasional 11.3 at Drews, but the buildup is killing the end of the run. Ride is sitting at 5.5 front and rear. an dhave went up to 6 all the way around.
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Originally Posted by chensleyrc1
Any suggestions to limit chassis drag on the sides? My car gets slower as the buildup starts. I can take the car off, wipe the chassis and go back out and gain .2. Got the car down to 11.4's and an occasional 11.3 at Drews, but the buildup is killing the end of the run. Ride is sitting at 5.5 front and rear. an dhave went up to 6 all the way around.
We noticed a drastic reduction of roll in matts car with the long arms vs 1.5f/.5r and noticed even less rub with all the weight down the center and low .
Now all this is with the MM car .

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Originally Posted by jlfx car audio
We noticed a drastic reduction of roll in matts car with the long arms vs 1.5f/.5r and noticed even less rub with all the weight down the center and low .
Now all this is with the MM car .
I am pretty sure I have the long arms, and mine is not MM. I did take 5 grams off each side and place in the center, but not much difference. I am going to try a little thicker fluid in the dampner and gear diff this coming Sat. Hope it helps, can't loose to my old XRay 2015, that would be embarrasing, lol.
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Originally Posted by chensleyrc1
I am pretty sure I have the long arms, and mine is not MM. I did take 5 grams off each side and place in the center, but not much difference. I am going to try a little thicker fluid in the dampner and gear diff this coming Sat. Hope it helps, can't loose to my old XRay 2015, that would be embarrasing, lol.
Your running the +8R /+9F arms ?
What fluid are you running ?

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Originally Posted by jlfx car audio
Your running the +8R /+9F arms ?
What fluid are you running ?
What arm height?
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Thanks everyone for your answers on weight distribution
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Originally Posted by jlfx car audio
Your running the +8R /+9F arms ?
What fluid are you running ?
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What arm height?
I will get that info tomorrow. Car is at the track, lol. I got it used so I don't know which arms, specificaly, it has, but will find out.
As for Dampner, 400cst front and rear, 7k in the gear diff. Was going to 10 k in the gear diff Sat.
Arm height would be .5mm right now. thought of raising that in the rear a little as well.
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Originally Posted by jlfx car audio
Your running the +8R /+9F arms ?
What fluid are you running ?
How can I tell what arms I have? Is there a marking of some sort?
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Originally Posted by chensleyrc1
How can I tell what arms I have? Is there a marking of some sort?
I'm pretty sure the +8/+9 arms mount further towards the middle of the chassis, so you would know if you had those.
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I’ve noticed some people have installed the rear body post holder on the front. It greatly spreads the front body posts plus moves them back. Does this work better than the normal front body posts position? Why do people do this?
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I’ve noticed some people have installed the rear body post holder on the front. It greatly spreads the front body posts plus moves them back. Does this work better than the normal front body posts position? Why do people do this?
the body is supported a little better like this, and the wheel arches tend to crack less since there is less flex in the body and posts like this. Downside is most setups these days use no brace in the front so you would have to tune around that
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