2275LikesAwesomatix A800/A800R
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06-15-2019, 11:34 AM
#4186
Tech Master
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It’s for flex .... you remove the screw to add flex. Add screw to stiffen it. It’s not meant to add a lot of flex, it adds a very small amount.
Awesomatix USA: Know your hubs!
Awesomatix USA: Know your hubs!
Could you elaborate on how that screw changes flex? Does the flex change if you tighten it more? Trying to figure this out, I can see that the flex changes fore to aft, but the load in that direction is extremely low.
EDIT: Looking at the design, I really think it is for outer wheel bearing clamping. Do you have a reference that says it's for flex?
EDIT: Looking at the design, I really think it is for outer wheel bearing clamping. Do you have a reference that says it's for flex?
06-15-2019, 12:07 PM
#4187
It’s for flex .... you remove the screw to add flex. Add screw to stiffen it. It’s not meant to add a lot of flex, it adds a very small amount.
Awesomatix USA: Know your hubs!
Awesomatix USA: Know your hubs!
06-15-2019, 02:24 PM
#4188
Definitely there to ensure the bearings are snug, nothing to do with flex adjustment.
06-16-2019, 01:01 AM
#4189
Tech Fanatic
These hubs with tightened screws are better at high traction conditions.
A presence of M2 screws affects on the flex of hubs in some directions and on the caster flex mostly.
A presence of M2 screws changes also the level of free play of the wheel's axles that affects on the car's reaction and grip.
Last edited by Oleg Babich; 06-16-2019 at 01:16 AM.
06-16-2019, 02:17 AM
#4190
Our tests and practice of many drivers showed that these hubs without M2 screws installed provide more grip at low-mid traction conditions.
These hubs with tightened screws are better at high traction conditions.
A presence of M2 screws affects on the flex of hubs in some directions and on the caster flex mostly.
A presence of M2 screws changes also the level of free play of the wheel's axles that affects on the car's reaction and grip.
These hubs with tightened screws are better at high traction conditions.
A presence of M2 screws affects on the flex of hubs in some directions and on the caster flex mostly.
A presence of M2 screws changes also the level of free play of the wheel's axles that affects on the car's reaction and grip.
was that the intention with the design or a coincidental finding?
06-16-2019, 02:38 AM
#4191
Tech Fanatic
06-16-2019, 12:22 PM
#4193
We know some guys build themselfe F1 cars with Awesomatix parts arround the world, but we do NOT have an official car from our side.
RedRC entered in the F1 result of the European Championship "AWESOMATIX" as brand by Olivier and Simon which is not correct info.
06-18-2019, 10:53 AM
#4195
I have a good friend that runs an A800 and he kept bugging me to buy and race an A800. So I caved and bought a used A800 with the mid motor conversion and long arms. I would like to offer my initial impressions.
I tore down and rebuilt the car purely to learn about the car. It is complex but I have to say it is a mechanical engineering marvel. I found building the damper spring units was difficult but after doing it a few times it is not bad. The biggest issue is the number of permutations on build configurations. And I’m not even talking about setup differences. Oh and how the heck am I supposed to add 100 grams to this car?
I built this car for USGT and I couldn’t find a setup sheet for a mid motor car. So I chose a mid motor setup for low traction asphalt. However I did soften the rear some since I like a car that has a pinned rear.
I ran the A800 for the first time last Saturday. I was impressed. It was very smooth and cornered great. The thing will turn!! It is definitely faster than my TC7.2. I did have someone nail me in the back while I was parked waiting for the first heat to start. That popped the big ball joint off at the upright. Easy fix. Then I hit a board in the sweeper during my third heat near the end when I went in too wide. It was a glancing blow that popped a c clip from a lower arm. Weird thing is I still won that heat but my last 4 laps were a second slower per lap. So my conclusions are that the car is a rocket and I’m going to love it but it is not as robust as the TC7.2. Shouldn’t be a problem because i normally run very clean.
I tore down and rebuilt the car purely to learn about the car. It is complex but I have to say it is a mechanical engineering marvel. I found building the damper spring units was difficult but after doing it a few times it is not bad. The biggest issue is the number of permutations on build configurations. And I’m not even talking about setup differences. Oh and how the heck am I supposed to add 100 grams to this car?
I built this car for USGT and I couldn’t find a setup sheet for a mid motor car. So I chose a mid motor setup for low traction asphalt. However I did soften the rear some since I like a car that has a pinned rear.
I ran the A800 for the first time last Saturday. I was impressed. It was very smooth and cornered great. The thing will turn!! It is definitely faster than my TC7.2. I did have someone nail me in the back while I was parked waiting for the first heat to start. That popped the big ball joint off at the upright. Easy fix. Then I hit a board in the sweeper during my third heat near the end when I went in too wide. It was a glancing blow that popped a c clip from a lower arm. Weird thing is I still won that heat but my last 4 laps were a second slower per lap. So my conclusions are that the car is a rocket and I’m going to love it but it is not as robust as the TC7.2. Shouldn’t be a problem because i normally run very clean.
06-19-2019, 07:34 AM
#4196
I have a good friend that runs an A800 and he kept bugging me to buy and race an A800. So I caved and bought a used A800 with the mid motor conversion and long arms. I would like to offer my initial impressions.
I tore down and rebuilt the car purely to learn about the car. It is complex but I have to say it is a mechanical engineering marvel. I found building the damper spring units was difficult but after doing it a few times it is not bad. The biggest issue is the number of permutations on build configurations. And I’m not even talking about setup differences. Oh and how the heck am I supposed to add 100 grams to this car?
I built this car for USGT and I couldn’t find a setup sheet for a mid motor car. So I chose a mid motor setup for low traction asphalt. However I did soften the rear some since I like a car that has a pinned rear.
I ran the A800 for the first time last Saturday. I was impressed. It was very smooth and cornered great. The thing will turn!! It is definitely faster than my TC7.2. I did have someone nail me in the back while I was parked waiting for the first heat to start. That popped the big ball joint off at the upright. Easy fix. Then I hit a board in the sweeper during my third heat near the end when I went in too wide. It was a glancing blow that popped a c clip from a lower arm. Weird thing is I still won that heat but my last 4 laps were a second slower per lap. So my conclusions are that the car is a rocket and I’m going to love it but it is not as robust as the TC7.2. Shouldn’t be a problem because i normally run very clean.
I tore down and rebuilt the car purely to learn about the car. It is complex but I have to say it is a mechanical engineering marvel. I found building the damper spring units was difficult but after doing it a few times it is not bad. The biggest issue is the number of permutations on build configurations. And I’m not even talking about setup differences. Oh and how the heck am I supposed to add 100 grams to this car?
I built this car for USGT and I couldn’t find a setup sheet for a mid motor car. So I chose a mid motor setup for low traction asphalt. However I did soften the rear some since I like a car that has a pinned rear.
I ran the A800 for the first time last Saturday. I was impressed. It was very smooth and cornered great. The thing will turn!! It is definitely faster than my TC7.2. I did have someone nail me in the back while I was parked waiting for the first heat to start. That popped the big ball joint off at the upright. Easy fix. Then I hit a board in the sweeper during my third heat near the end when I went in too wide. It was a glancing blow that popped a c clip from a lower arm. Weird thing is I still won that heat but my last 4 laps were a second slower per lap. So my conclusions are that the car is a rocket and I’m going to love it but it is not as robust as the TC7.2. Shouldn’t be a problem because i normally run very clean.
as you do more tuning things you couldnt on the AE you will begin to really love the car .
06-19-2019, 07:52 AM
#4197
I have the Xray T4 tungsten weight that goes under the center brace on the T4. I think it might be able to work down the center of either the front or rear of the MMCX motor mount. I'll check tonight. It is 30 grams.
CRC also has tungsten weight strips that will work for sure in the center. Comes in a two pack of 13g weights each.
CRC also has tungsten weight strips that will work for sure in the center. Comes in a two pack of 13g weights each.
06-20-2019, 11:42 PM
#4198
I have a good friend that runs an A800 and he kept bugging me to buy and race an A800. So I caved and bought a used A800 with the mid motor conversion and long arms. I would like to offer my initial impressions.
I tore down and rebuilt the car purely to learn about the car. It is complex but I have to say it is a mechanical engineering marvel. I found building the damper spring units was difficult but after doing it a few times it is not bad. The biggest issue is the number of permutations on build configurations. And I’m not even talking about setup differences. Oh and how the heck am I supposed to add 100 grams to this car?
I built this car for USGT and I couldn’t find a setup sheet for a mid motor car. So I chose a mid motor setup for low traction asphalt. However I did soften the rear some since I like a car that has a pinned rear.
I ran the A800 for the first time last Saturday. I was impressed. It was very smooth and cornered great. The thing will turn!! It is definitely faster than my TC7.2. I did have someone nail me in the back while I was parked waiting for the first heat to start. That popped the big ball joint off at the upright. Easy fix. Then I hit a board in the sweeper during my third heat near the end when I went in too wide. It was a glancing blow that popped a c clip from a lower arm. Weird thing is I still won that heat but my last 4 laps were a second slower per lap. So my conclusions are that the car is a rocket and I’m going to love it but it is not as robust as the TC7.2. Shouldn’t be a problem because i normally run very clean.
I tore down and rebuilt the car purely to learn about the car. It is complex but I have to say it is a mechanical engineering marvel. I found building the damper spring units was difficult but after doing it a few times it is not bad. The biggest issue is the number of permutations on build configurations. And I’m not even talking about setup differences. Oh and how the heck am I supposed to add 100 grams to this car?
I built this car for USGT and I couldn’t find a setup sheet for a mid motor car. So I chose a mid motor setup for low traction asphalt. However I did soften the rear some since I like a car that has a pinned rear.
I ran the A800 for the first time last Saturday. I was impressed. It was very smooth and cornered great. The thing will turn!! It is definitely faster than my TC7.2. I did have someone nail me in the back while I was parked waiting for the first heat to start. That popped the big ball joint off at the upright. Easy fix. Then I hit a board in the sweeper during my third heat near the end when I went in too wide. It was a glancing blow that popped a c clip from a lower arm. Weird thing is I still won that heat but my last 4 laps were a second slower per lap. So my conclusions are that the car is a rocket and I’m going to love it but it is not as robust as the TC7.2. Shouldn’t be a problem because i normally run very clean.
Eventually you'll get all of the weaker parts out of the way and the car will be a tank, I haven't lost or replaced a clip orna p03 in the last 6 months or so, running in mod and having some good wrecks. The upper ball cup popping off may be due to inccorect sized balls, they should be 5mm I believe? I had one used car where some one replaced them with 4.8 or 4.9 and they popped off all the time. I'll take a look at it this weekend glad you're liking it! Also sounds like you need heavier electronics I have no problem meeting usgt weight with an 8k pack and the digital 3 speedo /v21 combo haha
06-21-2019, 01:13 AM
#4199
I will definitely check the ball size, thank you. Is there a certain c clip orientation that helps the c clip stay on?
Edit: Actually I just remembered, the top arm didn’t pop off the ball, the P01 popped off the P02 part.
Edit: Actually I just remembered, the top arm didn’t pop off the ball, the P01 popped off the P02 part.
Last edited by glennhl; 06-21-2019 at 04:55 AM.