funked1

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I thought about running one of those in USGT to see if I could make the weight advantage work.

OVA

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Hey Mike
It just happens that they're usually based on lower-end road cars WHAT!!
Not sure where get your part of information from..
Back in the days we did have national lever two wheel drive classes..and ROAR was one of them
I ran the two wheel classes for three straight years ..throttle control !!! Are you kidding me... the two wheel drive get the same amount traction grip as the 4 wd...with no problem
btw my two wheel Tc was the YR-F2
btw Mike I ran mod and stock motor classes in my 2wd

grippgoat

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Lol, Franko, I was talking about real touring car racing using lower end road cars, like civics, integras, base BMWs, etc, as opposed to high end road cars like ferraris, porches, and aston martins that you see in GT classes.

Although I'm sure the history of touring car racing goes back even farther than my memories from the late 90s.

-Mike

Cpt.America

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Thanks for the Info Mike.. I didn't know that. I thought the full scale class were really all FWD cars. I guess I just remember seeing maybe a couple of particular races that happened to be all FWD cars. I can't imagine a FWD car actually competing with a RWD or 4WD car, heads up.

OVA

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...... oop ! sorry I misread ....lol

JimmyMac

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I've been thinking about this as well. Something fun to try.

Clawhammers

Does the 2WD TC provides easier and quicker setup ?

Salkin

Some threads whine about too many classes in 1/10 electric racing and too few drivers to really generate competitive classes with a sufficient amount of drivers.

Now somebody wants to invent a new class, 2wd touring car ???

Really can't see the point in a 2wd touring car. Why choose an inferior technical configuration?

Cost? If that is a "make or break" for you, then a used TC and HK lipos and other discount products will keep you going on an acceptable level anyway.

I have driven 2wd and 4wd 1/10 off road buggies, and a 4wd buggy just performes so much better.

Salkin

In our national series, we have a class for those cars. We call it the "Funny Car" class.

Only a handful drives them this year, and if you are "serious" about racing and want to race the fastest and best, they are just.......funny cars.

Here is a link to one of the latest races:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE679MOi5yo

And one last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvqSMahD3Jk

Here's two examples from outdoor tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLQrESiz2-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnSRXk7q03c

bdemegs

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thanks, all of a sudden I now need one of them.. this hobby is killing me..

fredswain

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I think you've missed the point. In fact you've definitely missed the point. I wasn't making a push to "invent" a new class. I'm asking why it isn't there in the first place? Why do we have such inconsistency in rc? I gave an example of off-road where one philosophy is prevalent in one scale but not another. The same is true with on road. I understand the logic that a 4wd is easier to drive. I also look at that general attitude as a crybaby excuse to justify not having any 2wd. That's not a personal attack on you btw. It's a common opinion reflected everywhere in an entitlement oriented millenial society. Make it easy for me because effort on my part is an unreasonable expectation. My question isn't aimed at changing people but rather goes back to the core of design. Why isn't it there? From a design standpoint it would have made more sense to create the 4wd as the natural evolution of a 2wd design. The opposite happened. Fwd cars evolved from 4wd designs.

sosidge

Why is TC 4wd? Because Tamiya created the template with (what became known as) the TA01 in 1991. A narrow, scale saloon based on the 4wd buggy platform of the time.

People liked them, people started to race them...

Front wheel drive has gone in and out of fashion since then, lots of manufacturers have made cars but they haven't picked up. It's a shame because they are a lot of fun to drive, but they are also harder to drive than the 4wd cars, which may explain why the gap in the racing market was never big enough for them. Mini is the place to go if you like front wheel drive.

RWD on-road cars on rubber tyres are very hard to drive. Not a surprise that they never gained popularity.

oeoeo327

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We don't have 2WD TCs for the same reason we stopped running RWD pan cars outdoors; for most drivers on most surfaces, they'd prove to be too difficult to drive. Putting forth effort to get a car around the track isn't the issue; it's having a suitable surface where any reasonable effort would allow you to get the car around the track successfully. While more feasible on carpet, racing 2WD outdoors under less than ideal conditions would prove to be more frustrating than rewarding.

BTW - most R/Cs evolved from RWD designs, both on and off road. With the exception of the 2wd off-road classes, there's a reason you don't see them all that often anymore (better designs with more traction sell more kits)...

SpeedySST

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Isnt that nearly the same as the F103GT? I love that car especially the Courage body for it.

firefoxussr

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I really want to do this for my TA03 now! Its just a basher car that I bought for a couple super scale bodies which are both rwd in 1:1.