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#1102
ok,so hypothetically speaking,youve fitted a 1million front diff cause its wet tarmac and you need more turn in,what would you look to change to get back some on power steering?
#1104
I am a little confused.....
I see alot saying to run anti-dive and increase caster to gain more steering. I tried this and I seemed to lose some over all steering. Both middle and on power.
I then went back to 4deg caster and put kick up in the car and had way more steering. So much so that I then took about 5 clicks of D/R out.
Even after reading the set up guide a few times I am still not getting why its more common to run anti-dive with more caster vs just running kick up.
Can some one help me under stand this a little better?
I see alot saying to run anti-dive and increase caster to gain more steering. I tried this and I seemed to lose some over all steering. Both middle and on power.
I then went back to 4deg caster and put kick up in the car and had way more steering. So much so that I then took about 5 clicks of D/R out.
Even after reading the set up guide a few times I am still not getting why its more common to run anti-dive with more caster vs just running kick up.
Can some one help me under stand this a little better?
#1105
Team EAM
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I am a little confused.....
I see alot saying to run anti-dive and increase caster to gain more steering. I tried this and I seemed to lose some over all steering. Both middle and on power.
I then went back to 4deg caster and put kick up in the car and had way more steering. So much so that I then took about 5 clicks of D/R out.
Even after reading the set up guide a few times I am still not getting why its more common to run anti-dive with more caster vs just running kick up.
Can some one help me under stand this a little better?
I see alot saying to run anti-dive and increase caster to gain more steering. I tried this and I seemed to lose some over all steering. Both middle and on power.
I then went back to 4deg caster and put kick up in the car and had way more steering. So much so that I then took about 5 clicks of D/R out.
Even after reading the set up guide a few times I am still not getting why its more common to run anti-dive with more caster vs just running kick up.
Can some one help me under stand this a little better?
Running 6 degree with anti dive will still have steering but the anti dive will keep the car from being tippy off power due to it not transferring as much weight to the front end off power but still have steering center out with the blocks. The draw back is a loss of steering into the corner. The anti dive seems to work better with a gear diff in the front.
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#1106
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#1107
Tech Rookie
I have a dumb build question... this is my first TC so bear with me. Most of my surface experience is with off-road 1/8 (otherwise I'm mostly a flier).
Using a Savox 1258MG steering servo and the kit servo saver, with the steering rod in the noon position I can't get the rod to clear the top plate. What's a good alternative here? I can see: lose the saver and use a plain arm; move the ball to the hole closest to the servo axle; angle the saver arm lower (like maybe 10-11 o'clock) and shorten the rod. The latter would be the easiest, but wouldn't that result in an asymmetric steering response? Longer/shorter seems easier to deal with - just tweak the radio slightly. (Airtronics M12 in my case.) Any advice?
Using a Savox 1258MG steering servo and the kit servo saver, with the steering rod in the noon position I can't get the rod to clear the top plate. What's a good alternative here? I can see: lose the saver and use a plain arm; move the ball to the hole closest to the servo axle; angle the saver arm lower (like maybe 10-11 o'clock) and shorten the rod. The latter would be the easiest, but wouldn't that result in an asymmetric steering response? Longer/shorter seems easier to deal with - just tweak the radio slightly. (Airtronics M12 in my case.) Any advice?
#1108
I have a dumb build question... this is my first TC so bear with me. Most of my surface experience is with off-road 1/8 (otherwise I'm mostly a flier).
Using a Savox 1258MG steering servo and the kit servo saver, with the steering rod in the noon position I can't get the rod to clear the top plate. What's a good alternative here? I can see: lose the saver and use a plain arm; move the ball to the hole closest to the servo axle; angle the saver arm lower (like maybe 10-11 o'clock) and shorten the rod. The latter would be the easiest, but wouldn't that result in an asymmetric steering response? Longer/shorter seems easier to deal with - just tweak the radio slightly. (Airtronics M12 in my case.) Any advice?
Using a Savox 1258MG steering servo and the kit servo saver, with the steering rod in the noon position I can't get the rod to clear the top plate. What's a good alternative here? I can see: lose the saver and use a plain arm; move the ball to the hole closest to the servo axle; angle the saver arm lower (like maybe 10-11 o'clock) and shorten the rod. The latter would be the easiest, but wouldn't that result in an asymmetric steering response? Longer/shorter seems easier to deal with - just tweak the radio slightly. (Airtronics M12 in my case.) Any advice?
This has always worked fine for Savox servos for me.
For my new Sanwa servo (which is slightly taller) I've had to fit a rod that uses a smaller hex to avoid the hex hitting the top-deck.
#1109
Tech Rookie
Correction: it's a Savox 1251MG (not 1258). I think the underlying problem is the servo is a little too compact and the axle not far enough out. This causes the rod to hit the top deck in the outermost saver hole. It clears the deck in the inner. But then, the saver fails to clear the steering mount/pivot so I can't use the full steering range... If I file off the tip of the saver it should clear the pivot.
Perhaps I can move the servo further outwards - that should solve both problems... Hmm...
Perhaps I can move the servo further outwards - that should solve both problems... Hmm...
#1110
Tech Rookie
Solved! Angled the saver block outwards so an inside hole is in the neutral position. Remounted the servo lower, spaced three sheets of printer paper off the chassis. Reduced the ball joint spacers from 4 to 2mm. Took out the servo spacers. It looks to clear enough that I could probably put the servo spacers back in, or go back to 4mm on the ball joint... Anyway, now I feel confident enough about this to shorten that servo lead! Thank you very much for the suggestion to mount the servo lower!