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hanzo3 09-14-2014 10:12 PM

Tamiya also makes titanium turnbuckles in that tamiya blue as well.

niznai 09-14-2014 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by hanzo3 (Post 13534430)
Tamiya also makes titanium turnbuckles in that tamiya blue as well.


Yep, they do, but they're overpriced and crap. I never managed to bend/break a Ti rod from anyone else apart from Tamiya.

Simmi 09-14-2014 11:42 PM

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You can also use turnbuckles from Associated different blue but Titanium TA 1401 FT 33mm.

Marc R also use this turnbuckles :sneaky:


Yesterday I drive with the EVO 6 Servo Mount. I change also the blocks in front to B-B. I think I have more steering, find not such a big difference.

hanzo3 09-15-2014 12:23 AM

Thanks. They only cost $6. Why by overpriced Tamiya ones?



Originally Posted by Simmi (Post 13534504)
You can also use turnbuckles from Associated different blue but Titanium TA 1401 FT 33mm.

Marc R also use this turnbuckles :sneaky:


Yesterday I drive with the EVO 6 Servo Mount. I change also the blocks in front to B-B. I think I have more steering, find not such a big difference.


niznai 09-15-2014 12:40 AM

Or just get some Lunsford turnbuckles. I found they're the best quality, ever reliable and can get any size you'd like.

Yokomo sells Ti turnbuckle kits for their cars under their brand, but they're made by Lunsford. You might be able to get one of those kits easier.

goin2drt 09-15-2014 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by niznai (Post 13534547)
Or just get some Lunsford turnbuckles. I found they're the best quality, ever reliable and can get any size you'd like.

Yokomo sells Ti turnbuckle kits for their cars under their brand, but they're made by Lunsford. You might be able to get one of those kits easier.

I like this idea. I like Lunsford from my off road days. I will have to search for the Yok set if they are the right sizes.

Thanks for the help.

goin2drt 09-15-2014 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by Simmi (Post 13534504)
You can also use turnbuckles from Associated different blue but Titanium TA 1401 FT 33mm.

Marc R also use this turnbuckles :sneaky:


Yesterday I drive with the EVO 6 Servo Mount. I change also the blocks in front to B-B. I think I have more steering, find not such a big difference.

That's what confused me. Coming from AE the Tamiya seemed similar so I assumed they were Ti.

Salkin 09-16-2014 12:38 AM

In the 418 setup sheet, like this one:

http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/tami...ice2013110103/

In the bottom, to the left, there is a setup parameter "Lower deck 2.25 mm".

What is that?

niznai 09-16-2014 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by Salkin (Post 13536887)
In the 418 setup sheet, like this one:

http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/tami...ice2013110103/

In the bottom, to the left, there is a setup parameter "Lower deck 2.25 mm".

What is that?

Lower (main) chassis plate thickness.

Pretty much standard these days, but in the days of yore there were thicker plates for instance for on-road foam tire racing where stiffer chassies made sense.

Salkin 09-16-2014 01:02 AM

Ah, OK. I just use the kit lower chassis plate, so I can "ignore" this parameter, as I can not change it anyway.

niznai 09-16-2014 01:51 AM

Xray used to have up to the T3 "foam" (or US-spec) chassies and Euro (or rubber spec) kits where the main difference was the chassis (3 vs 2.25mm). Not sure if T4 has these options.

Salkin 09-16-2014 06:26 AM

Does anyone have a neutral, non aggressive, setup for indoor carpet track?

I run on this track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qCAXiC8LTM

I run 4.5T modified. Sorex 28. LRP carpet grip additive.

I currently run kit setup, coming from an outdoor track.

I have just purchased HPI Silver (black colored) springs. Are these better to use than the kit springs that I currently use on indoor carpet?

sosidge 09-16-2014 06:36 AM

If you want it to be non-aggressive then you want to get rid of the 4.5T motor.

For setup, start with the outdoor setting. I never really got a nice setup on my 418 last season so can't advise, I ended up running HPI Pinks on the front and HPI silvers on the rear, #2,000 in the rear diff, but always struggled with rear traction no matter what I tried. And that was with a 17.5.

Salkin 09-16-2014 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by sosidge (Post 13537294)
If you want it to be non-aggressive then you want to get rid of the 4.5T motor.

For setup, start with the outdoor setting. I never really got a nice setup on my 418 last season so can't advise, I ended up running HPI Pinks on the front and HPI silvers on the rear, #2,000 in the rear diff, but always struggled with rear traction no matter what I tried. And that was with a 17.5.

Well, it is actually my 10 year old son who drives the 418, and the power control is not a problem. his gearing is 7,66 (116/28).

By non aggressive I mean a car with relatively neutral steering and a non twitchy car. I rather start with a neutral setup and then add some steering etc. if/when needed.

I run an older 417v5 with a 4T Speed Passion motor, and even though I'm new I don't think the power is too much. I know many thinks it is crazy powerful, but I really don't think they are that powerful. Not trying to sound smart or anything.

We come from 1/8 E buggies and are use to overpowered buggies racing on loose dirt, so careful trigger operation is the name of the game.

Compared to this running TC on carpet is like running on rails. You turn, the car actually turns, you brake and the car actually brakes. It seems so much more tactile.

JimmyMac 09-16-2014 06:50 PM

Have you tried running Marc's first 418 setup from the ETS races? http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/tami...ice2013110103/

I tried this setup on our local track with kit springs and it's been doing pretty good. Just needs more work for my driving style.


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