Spool vs Ball Diff
#16
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The reason for running a front gear diff with 2.5million cst (I don't like putty because its inconsistent) is for increased entry steering and a generally smoother feel overall. I started my car with a spool and ran it that way for nearly a year before trying a gear diff up front with thick oil. With the spool, the car was under steering into a corner. With the gear diff, entry steering increased greatly and the car was more predictable overall.
It's more of a tuning thing i suppose. I know that I probably won't run a spool up front with my 17.5 ever again though. Conversely, I have a spool in both my VTA and mod car because I like how they're set up already.
It's more of a tuning thing i suppose. I know that I probably won't run a spool up front with my 17.5 ever again though. Conversely, I have a spool in both my VTA and mod car because I like how they're set up already.
#19
One more point. A spool is harder on the drive line, and you will need to replace parts more often (Thinking of those small clips on the drive shafts). Esp if you hit a board, you will probably break and outdrive.
With running a diff (of any type), you are less likely to break a component if you tap a board, and the wear and tear on the drive line tends to be less.
I run a spool outdoors for the extra power coming out of the corner, but on carpet I quickly switched back to a diff (ball) for the extra steering. I have not had the opportunity to run a gear diff in electric, but do play with them in nitro (120K front, 30K rear). Works really well.
Shawn.
With running a diff (of any type), you are less likely to break a component if you tap a board, and the wear and tear on the drive line tends to be less.
I run a spool outdoors for the extra power coming out of the corner, but on carpet I quickly switched back to a diff (ball) for the extra steering. I have not had the opportunity to run a gear diff in electric, but do play with them in nitro (120K front, 30K rear). Works really well.
Shawn.
#20
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The reason for running a front gear diff with 2.5million cst (I don't like putty because its inconsistent) is for increased entry steering and a generally smoother feel overall. I started my car with a spool and ran it that way for nearly a year before trying a gear diff up front with thick oil. With the spool, the car was under steering into a corner. With the gear diff, entry steering increased greatly and the car was more predictable overall.
It's more of a tuning thing i suppose. I know that I probably won't run a spool up front with my 17.5 ever again though. Conversely, I have a spool in both my VTA and mod car because I like how they're set up already.
It's more of a tuning thing i suppose. I know that I probably won't run a spool up front with my 17.5 ever again though. Conversely, I have a spool in both my VTA and mod car because I like how they're set up already.
#21
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#23
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That stuff is super thick. It doesn't flow so you basically have to just scoop it into the diff. They provide a little syringe to try and load it in but it doesn't work. I decided to just use an old spec r gear diff I had instead of using a $60 one from xray. Does the same thing (weighs more but my car is under weight anyway) and was a lot more cost effective.
#24
You can turn the wheel by hand and make the opposite wheel rotate in the opposite direction. It's stiff (obviously ) but does help.
Tried it in stock and all it did was reduce drive out of corners so I took it out.
In Mod you have to be so much more progressive with the power anyway that this doesn't show up as much (also adds stability in Mod over a spool)
Skiddins
#25
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I have a gear diff with 2.5million in it, I only use it when running Mod and it does still have some diff action.
You can turn the wheel by hand and make the opposite wheel rotate in the opposite direction. It's stiff (obviously ) but does help.
Tried it in stock and all it did was reduce drive out of corners so I took it out.
In Mod you have to be so much more progressive with the power anyway that this doesn't show up as much (also adds stability in Mod over a spool)
Skiddins
You can turn the wheel by hand and make the opposite wheel rotate in the opposite direction. It's stiff (obviously ) but does help.
Tried it in stock and all it did was reduce drive out of corners so I took it out.
In Mod you have to be so much more progressive with the power anyway that this doesn't show up as much (also adds stability in Mod over a spool)
Skiddins
#26
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I have a gear diff with 2.5million in it, I only use it when running Mod and it does still have some diff action.
You can turn the wheel by hand and make the opposite wheel rotate in the opposite direction. It's stiff (obviously ) but does help.
Tried it in stock and all it did was reduce drive out of corners so I took it out.
In Mod you have to be so much more progressive with the power anyway that this doesn't show up as much (also adds stability in Mod over a spool)
Skiddins
You can turn the wheel by hand and make the opposite wheel rotate in the opposite direction. It's stiff (obviously ) but does help.
Tried it in stock and all it did was reduce drive out of corners so I took it out.
In Mod you have to be so much more progressive with the power anyway that this doesn't show up as much (also adds stability in Mod over a spool)
Skiddins
#27
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Yea you had the same experience I did with a gear diff. Reduced drive outta corner but increased entry. I always felt like my car oversteered a bit outta corner and understeered into it so the gear diff seemed like the perfect fix and it was exactly what I was hoping for.
#28
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I found the same thing, too.
Interestingly, I found that DCJ's with a spool had a similar feel to 500k gear diff without DCJs, in terms of turning into the corner better and being smoother through the middle. But it of course kept the corner exit pull that the gear diff was lacking.
-Mike
Interestingly, I found that DCJ's with a spool had a similar feel to 500k gear diff without DCJs, in terms of turning into the corner better and being smoother through the middle. But it of course kept the corner exit pull that the gear diff was lacking.
-Mike