2013 LAS VEGAS INTERNATIONAL INDOOR CHAMPIONSHIPS "IIC" W/SCOTTY ERNST
10-08-2013, 01:13 PM
#842
I've never understood how lipo's and indoor hotel races worked out. Las Vegas has some of the strictest fire regulations in the country and I don't see the conference centers and hotels liking the idea of lipo charging being inside.
I use to work in all the conference centers here in Vegas and anytime there was work with chance of open flame you had to have someone stand next to you on fire watch holding an extinguisher just in case something happens. Ever since the MGM fire (now Bally's) back 1980 that killed 85 people the fire codes are insanely strict.
I assume they're not in the "know" of lipo's, rc racing and the higher amps onroad racers throw at them. Hate to say it but my gut tells me that charging lipo's inside these places will be short lived once they catch on to the potential of lipo fires regardless of the care taken by racers.
I use to work in all the conference centers here in Vegas and anytime there was work with chance of open flame you had to have someone stand next to you on fire watch holding an extinguisher just in case something happens. Ever since the MGM fire (now Bally's) back 1980 that killed 85 people the fire codes are insanely strict.
I assume they're not in the "know" of lipo's, rc racing and the higher amps onroad racers throw at them. Hate to say it but my gut tells me that charging lipo's inside these places will be short lived once they catch on to the potential of lipo fires regardless of the care taken by racers.
10-08-2013, 01:49 PM
#843
Wishing everybody a fun and safe time. Especially the F1 racers out there. Show them how it's done! 
10-08-2013, 01:53 PM
#844
I've never understood how lipo's and indoor hotel races worked out. Las Vegas has some of the strictest fire regulations in the country and I don't see the conference centers and hotels liking the idea of lipo charging being inside.
I use to work in all the conference centers here in Vegas and anytime there was work with chance of open flame you had to have someone stand next to you on fire watch holding an extinguisher just in case something happens. Ever since the MGM fire (now Bally's) back 1980 that killed 85 people the fire codes are insanely strict.
I assume they're not in the "know" of lipo's, rc racing and the higher amps onroad racers throw at them. Hate to say it but my gut tells me that charging lipo's inside these places will be short lived once they catch on to the potential of lipo fires regardless of the care taken by racers.
I use to work in all the conference centers here in Vegas and anytime there was work with chance of open flame you had to have someone stand next to you on fire watch holding an extinguisher just in case something happens. Ever since the MGM fire (now Bally's) back 1980 that killed 85 people the fire codes are insanely strict.
I assume they're not in the "know" of lipo's, rc racing and the higher amps onroad racers throw at them. Hate to say it but my gut tells me that charging lipo's inside these places will be short lived once they catch on to the potential of lipo fires regardless of the care taken by racers.
10-08-2013, 05:46 PM
#846
Nice to know there is a 10A charge limit..... No more equipment advantage ...lol... Let's hope everybody charges at 10A max in a sealed Racing room !!! Lol... Competition will be tighter this year for sure......
10-08-2013, 10:24 PM
#847
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Per the sheet we all signed, it was raised to 14A for the charge rate.
The lipo sack in question worked quite well. yes there was smoke and some flame from the bag edges, but overall besides for a scorch on the table there was little actual damage.
I am curious when at the beginning of races there will be a fire safety briefing and discussion on how to properly handle and safe a lipo fire. There was some confusion... do you pour the sand on the fire? do you drop the flaming lipo into the sand? where do you take the flaming wreckage?
Overall I think the attentiveness everyone is showing at IIC in regards to LiPo safety is great.
The lipo sack in question worked quite well. yes there was smoke and some flame from the bag edges, but overall besides for a scorch on the table there was little actual damage.
I am curious when at the beginning of races there will be a fire safety briefing and discussion on how to properly handle and safe a lipo fire. There was some confusion... do you pour the sand on the fire? do you drop the flaming lipo into the sand? where do you take the flaming wreckage?
Overall I think the attentiveness everyone is showing at IIC in regards to LiPo safety is great.
10-08-2013, 10:47 PM
#848
Meet and Greet was pretty cool tonite
All sorts of new stuff
SpeedMerchant has a new 235 pan car, based on a WGT3.5 spec
Protoform had a new Mazda 6 body
CRC had all kinds of stuff, including a new CRC F1 car !
And 3 new bodies from BlackArt, WGT, and 2 new LM Prototype 12th bodies
But one of the coolest things I saw is this new 1s/Shorty lipo bag from Bill Jeric of Tuning Haus
I'm a sucker for sweet packaging
Check out all the pics at Cambergain.com
All sorts of new stuff
SpeedMerchant has a new 235 pan car, based on a WGT3.5 spec
Protoform had a new Mazda 6 body
CRC had all kinds of stuff, including a new CRC F1 car !
And 3 new bodies from BlackArt, WGT, and 2 new LM Prototype 12th bodies
But one of the coolest things I saw is this new 1s/Shorty lipo bag from Bill Jeric of Tuning Haus
I'm a sucker for sweet packaging
Check out all the pics at Cambergain.com
Last edited by RedBullFiXX; 10-08-2013 at 11:23 PM. Reason: cambergain.com
10-08-2013, 10:48 PM
#849
Well, the pits were open at 11 and we had our first Lipo fire before noon. Not sure what charger it was, but the dude was following the rules and had his stick in a Lipo sack so beyone the flash of flames that shot out of the bag, and the lingering smell in the ballroom, as was well.
You never saw Scotty Ernst run so fast as to get that lipo sack out the back door of the ballroom. All the time yelling "already?!"
You never saw Scotty Ernst run so fast as to get that lipo sack out the back door of the ballroom. All the time yelling "already?!"
10-08-2013, 11:05 PM
#850
The Hitec X4 only charges at 6amps.
Lipo's are as safe as you make them. I have NEVER had a single issue with one. And I charge at 15 amps fairly regularly. But stuff happens. Cell phones and laptops have been known to burst into flames from the lipo's they contain. Should those not be charged indoors?
Sounds like Scotty has taken every necessary measure to ensure everyones safety.
I've never understood how lipo's and indoor hotel races worked out. Las Vegas has some of the strictest fire regulations in the country and I don't see the conference centers and hotels liking the idea of lipo charging being inside.
I use to work in all the conference centers here in Vegas and anytime there was work with chance of open flame you had to have someone stand next to you on fire watch holding an extinguisher just in case something happens. Ever since the MGM fire (now Bally's) back 1980 that killed 85 people the fire codes are insanely strict.
I assume they're not in the "know" of lipo's, rc racing and the higher amps onroad racers throw at them. Hate to say it but my gut tells me that charging lipo's inside these places will be short lived once they catch on to the potential of lipo fires regardless of the care taken by racers.
I use to work in all the conference centers here in Vegas and anytime there was work with chance of open flame you had to have someone stand next to you on fire watch holding an extinguisher just in case something happens. Ever since the MGM fire (now Bally's) back 1980 that killed 85 people the fire codes are insanely strict.
I assume they're not in the "know" of lipo's, rc racing and the higher amps onroad racers throw at them. Hate to say it but my gut tells me that charging lipo's inside these places will be short lived once they catch on to the potential of lipo fires regardless of the care taken by racers.
Sounds like Scotty has taken every necessary measure to ensure everyones safety.
10-09-2013, 04:56 AM
#854
The Hitec X4 only charges at 6amps.
Lipo's are as safe as you make them. I have NEVER had a single issue with one. And I charge at 15 amps fairly regularly. But stuff happens. Cell phones and laptops have been known to burst into flames from the lipo's they contain. Should those not be charged indoors?
Sounds like Scotty has taken every necessary measure to ensure everyones safety.
Lipo's are as safe as you make them. I have NEVER had a single issue with one. And I charge at 15 amps fairly regularly. But stuff happens. Cell phones and laptops have been known to burst into flames from the lipo's they contain. Should those not be charged indoors?
Sounds like Scotty has taken every necessary measure to ensure everyones safety.
I never saw the battery but I thought someone mentioned it was a q cell Turnigy.