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Old 02-10-2013, 03:01 PM   #31
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Do you use this 50/50 mix with rubber tires or foams?

Some off-road racers here are using a similar mix with tire warmers with
great results. So much so that the hobby store has been selling tire warmers like hot cakes!!
Both for outdoor but now that our club just bought 4 new 100 foot rolls of CRC carpet, only Jack The Gripper is allowed on it.
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Close but it contains two ingredients.

60% Colmen fuel
40% Mineral spirits

WD40 is mostly made from fish oil.
Just saying...
I am thinking there is more than just these two items. I mixed up the Colmen Fuel and Mineral Spirits and the evaporation rate of these two items alone is much faster than it should be. At least twice as fast as the actual traction compounds... Let me know your thoughts please.
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I am thinking there is more than just these two items. I mixed up the Colmen Fuel and Mineral Spirits and the evaporation rate of these two items alone is much faster than it should be. At least twice as fast as the actual traction compounds... Let me know your thoughts please.
Ha, that was going to be my next question....... if Naptha is the main rubber softener what is the mineral spirits used for? Increase the rubber softening effect or is it just used to dilute the Coleman fuel and help it to evaporate at a different rate?

Question 2 was how well does Coleman fuel evaporate on its own but it sounds like you answered that with your Mineral spirits mix. The fuel alone would likely evaporate much faster than SXT 3.0 I would guess since the mix did.
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tried wd40... not that good... it takes a long time to see usable effects and the effect isn't that great either.

i have mixed my own stuff for our own track here. people were willing to buy for cheap here as an alternative to more expensive RC branded stuff. i researched and mixed this while i was just starting and tested it with the prevailing branded stuff here. It's good enough that I have never really gone back to the branded stuff.

i've even had "too much" traction comments. hehe
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Ha, that was going to be my next question....... if Naptha is the main rubber softener what is the mineral spirits used for? Increase the rubber softening effect or is it just used to dilute the Coleman fuel and help it to evaporate at a different rate?
Mineral spirits helps aid with cleaning as there is mineral oil lubricates the rubber.
Other tire additives contain more lubricants between brands.

As carpet traction increases foam tires tend to get sticky coming off the track after a race. This is the time to clean and use a different traction compound with more lubricants added.
By doing this tires come off cleaner with no stick residue after the race. (faster lap times)

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Question 2 was how well does Coleman fuel evaporate on its own but it sounds like you answered that with your Mineral spirits mix. The fuel alone would likely evaporate much faster than SXT 3.0 I would guess since the mix did.
Colman fuel/ Naptha will dry very fast(higher flash point). Very good cleaner.
Mineral spirits dries much slower with the added oils (low flash point).

Experiment with your mixes.
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What is your take on using Brake Fluid?
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What is your take on using Brake Fluid?
It's one of the ingredients I use in my homebrew. It helps prevent quick evaporation of the other stuff like wintergreen, paint thinner, etc.

It also feels sticky to the touch so maybe it helps in the grip?
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tried wd40... not that good... it takes a long time to see usable effects and the effect isn't that great either.

i have mixed my own stuff for our own track here. people were willing to buy for cheap here as an alternative to more expensive RC branded stuff. i researched and mixed this while i was just starting and tested it with the prevailing branded stuff here. It's good enough that I have never really gone back to the branded stuff.

i've even had "too much" traction comments. hehe
Don't just tease with "too much traction comments", How about letting us know what is in the home brew?
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Close but it contains two ingredients.

60% Colmen fuel
40% Mineral spirits
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Colman fuel/ Naptha will dry very fast(higher flash point). Very good cleaner.
Mineral spirits dries much slower with the added oils (low flash point).

Experiment with your mixes.
So maybe try the other way around to keep from rapid evaporation?

40% Coleman Fuel
60% mineral spirits
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It's one of the ingredients I use in my homebrew. It helps prevent quick evaporation of the other stuff like wintergreen, paint thinner, etc.

It also feels sticky to the touch so maybe it helps in the grip?
Brake fluid
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traction, ok.. wd40 works good

but what additive will give the best traction and best tire life? wd40 for example tends to eat uo the rubber quite fast
im talking asphalt now...
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I have just tried a couple mixes coleman fuel/naptha and mineral spirits. One at 50/50 and once at 60/40. Both seemed to soften and sticky up the tires but do evaporate quickly. I've got a mix of 50/50 right now but wanted to add something to it so it wouldn't evaporate so quickly. I was thinking about trying to add some technical mineral oil to the mix simply because I have easy access to it. What percentage should I add as a starting point or is mineral oil not something that would work?
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What about Marvel mystery oil
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I have just tried a couple mixes coleman fuel/naptha and mineral spirits. One at 50/50 and once at 60/40. Both seemed to soften and sticky up the tires but do evaporate quickly. I've got a mix of 50/50 right now but wanted to add something to it so it wouldn't evaporate so quickly. I was thinking about trying to add some technical mineral oil to the mix simply because I have easy access to it. What percentage should I add as a starting point or is mineral oil not something that would work?
Now your on the right path.
I add about 5% of mineral oil or caster oil.

You can use PB Blaster works well too for an oil mix.

I use the 50/50 for cleaning the tires.
Then use a oil in the 50/50 mix as traction gos up on carpet racing.
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What about Marvel mystery oil
I would advoid that due to the RED color of the oil IMO. I'm trying to keep my mix clear if at all possible.

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Brake fluid
PB blaster
Brake cleaner
caster oil

Just experiment and find what works for you!
Thanks for the input, for newbies at the track who have never cleaned their tires and have so much buildup they are not even using their own rubber I have found GUMMOUT carb cleaner to work very quickly at removing major buildup.

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I have just tried a couple mixes coleman fuel/naptha and mineral spirits. One at 50/50 and once at 60/40. Both seemed to soften and sticky up the tires but do evaporate quickly. I've got a mix of 50/50 right now but wanted to add something to it so it wouldn't evaporate so quickly. I was thinking about trying to add some technical mineral oil to the mix simply because I have easy access to it. What percentage should I add as a starting point or is mineral oil not something that would work?
Thank you for posting your testing, I have not had a chance to experiment so I appreciate you sharing.

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Now your on the right path.
I add about 5% of mineral oil or caster oil.

You can use PB Blaster works well too for an oil mix.

I use the 50/50 for cleaning the tires.
Then use a oil in the 50/50 mix as traction gos up on carpet racing.
If I understand correctly you use the oil mix with high traction to help prevent the buildup of track rubber on your tires, correct?
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