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jzone 03-02-2005 11:09 AM

Peak Dynasty 19t Motor
 
I'm lookin for some tuning options for the Peak Dynasty 19turn motor....................

Let's hear it,,,,,,,brushes , spring combo's, etc............

Thanks

Asurada Sugo 03-02-2005 11:25 AM

I have 3 of those and I've noticed that bearings on it die real fast. I've had to replace the original bearings on all 3 of mine after about 20 packs of batteries or so. Same situations with a lot of other racers at my local track with their dynasty.

Peak has replacement bearings for the motor.

I upgraded all mine with ceramic bearings since I had to take them out to replace them anyways so might as well put in the good stuff. Afterall, the motor bearings are the highest reving bearings on the whole car and if you put want to put ceramic bearings on the car, putting it in the motor should make the most difference. I use the motor ceramic bearings from APS racing and they're great! The arm slides into the bearings real snug and fit so I guess that should help too.

As for brushes, I use Trinity 4499 thought I heard a lot of praises with Putnam brushes but they're a bit too pricey for my liking.

mtveten 03-02-2005 01:30 PM

Jesse,

shoot me a mail and I'll send you the orion 19T setups. The Orion does make good power, far more than the reedy but not quite as much as a good c2.

Mark

jzone 03-02-2005 01:38 PM

hey mark,
Yeah, I'm lookin to see what everyone else is running on their peak dynasty motors. I'm gonna be running it as a spec motor for the Western Canadian TCS Series. Your input is very welcome..

Jess

Korey Harbke 03-02-2005 03:39 PM

Fantom 315's (same compound as a 767, just more dense) And purple springs. I hand align each hood, and I eyballed some cavities in the brushes. The neg cavity being slightly smaller then the positive. I think the pos cavity is abotu 5/64's and the neg is about 1/16. Then just gear this motor to the moon.

I have also been running a Peak Dynasty V2 version. Been haveing very good luck with it as well. The stock setup out of the box is great. I just keep slapped bigger pinions on it and it keeps getting better.

-Korey

pheyhoe 03-02-2005 04:26 PM

I bought a 19T Dynasty 6 months ago and its the only motor i have used on and off for 6 months....

I suppose i had neglected this motor so i thought it was time for a skimm hehe, opend it up and its in GREAT shape, i cannot belive how well this motor has lasted. its mega quick aswell!

No problems with bearings :)

jzone 03-02-2005 06:47 PM

Thanks guys, Keep it coming, ,,,,I'm like a sponge......

I can keep soaking it up.............:weird: :D

Jess

ChadCapece 03-02-2005 07:03 PM

Reedy 767, orion red-orange +, green -, align hoods, take off leading and trailing edge of brush, hole in neg, constant bearing oil drops(Zubak), purple bulit comm drops. The motor will put down good power, but not like a Team High Velocty C2.:D

vtl1180ny 03-02-2005 07:21 PM

When can we get the 19t V2 motors in the states?????

jzone 03-02-2005 08:00 PM

I know the power band is way different than the C2 motor. So how should gearing be?.....guess treat it like a torque motor and gear it to the moon?

Korey Harbke 03-02-2005 08:28 PM

Yes gear to the moon. At rain city a 6.3 final drive is good with rubber tires. Generally I run a 6.8 With a reedy quad mag so you have some comparison. I eneded up with the same ratio as well.

You can get the v2 versions now. They made a limited run of them. They are expensive though. They have the same part number but they have an LE at the end. I'm guessing for limited edition. So far I'm pretty impressed.

-Korey

rc-zombies 03-02-2005 10:06 PM


Originally posted by vtl1180ny
When can we get the 19t V2 motors in the states?????
Billy from Speedworld said Peak only made 100 of them and all are sold out.. I was lucky enough to get 2.. :D
can't wait to try it out this weekend.

Korey Harbke 03-02-2005 10:09 PM

wow I never knew they were that limited lol.

-Korey

kumpol 03-02-2005 10:14 PM

I have run the Dynasty with V2 endbell......hard springs and sprint brushes with 24 degree of timing. I'm satisfied with it so far.

Korey Harbke 03-02-2005 10:20 PM

Yeah, thats how mine is setup. Seems to work good.

-Korey

jzone 03-02-2005 11:45 PM

Limited huh, are you talking about the whole motor. Cuz r/c pro shop (my LHS) has the endbell kits for them. They cost more than the motor its self.........lol

rc-zombies 03-03-2005 07:53 AM


Originally posted by jzone
Limited huh, are you talking about the whole motor. Cuz r/c pro shop (my LHS) has the endbell kits for them. They cost more than the motor its self.........lol
yes... the whole motor...

jzone 03-03-2005 09:37 AM

is there a "real" power difference w/ the V2 endbell? I just don't see the gain, besides maybe better efficiency, and the kwel factor

pheyhoe 03-03-2005 09:41 AM

good thing about V2,

You dont have to line up bruch hoods...... :)

Limited?!?

In the UK just about every man and his dog has one......................

vtl1180ny 03-03-2005 09:48 AM


Originally posted by pheyhoe
good thing about V2,

You dont have to line up bruch hoods...... :)

Limited?!?

In the UK just about every man and his dog has one......................

Any mail order places in the UK who I could get some from???

pheyhoe 03-03-2005 09:51 AM

http://www.apexmodels.co.uk/

They do them but after the conversion to dollars it becomes expensive....

£32.99 = $60.00

rc-zombies 03-03-2005 10:35 AM


Originally posted by pheyhoe
http://www.apexmodels.co.uk/

They do them but after the conversion to dollars it becomes expensive....

£32.99 = $60.00

+ Shipping.

vtl1180ny 03-03-2005 10:57 AM


Originally posted by pheyhoe
http://www.apexmodels.co.uk/

They do them but after the conversion to dollars it becomes expensive....

£32.99 = $60.00

I'm quite aware of that.... But you figure... !9 turn motor = 35USD, V2 Endbell kit 50USD... That's $85, plus tax and/or shipping here too....

I want to try the motor.... Plain and simple....

hugh janus 03-03-2005 01:09 PM


Originally posted by jzone
is there a "real" power difference w/ the V2 endbell? I just don't see the gain, besides maybe better efficiency, and the kwel factor
i think its more of a plus for maintenence(sp) then preformance, but i have never crashed one personally, just what i hear

Bluey_74 03-03-2005 02:21 PM

everyone seems quite keen to gear these things to the moon, i run mine at about 5.86, and i holds up fine.
Havent tried those other brushes yet.
Do you find that it made much difference to power, or just kept the comm in better shape?

Rod M 03-03-2005 02:38 PM

I bought a Orion Element 19t V2 from Apex about 4 months ago, I believe it would be the same thing as the Peak V2 ?

costed a absolute bucket due to the Pound being so strong against the Aussie dollar,

the only other 19t I have is a Trinity chameleon 2 and, on the motor master the V2 pulls slightly more revs, it also feels more balanced,

on the track the Trinity has more "Punch", but the V2 feels smoother and higher reving, the run time is fantastic,

the com wear on the V2 is minimal, only have to do a cut every 10-20 or so runs and it only requires one pass on the lathe, done three cuts so far and I am still using the original brushes :)

I have been told that heavy springs and enduro brushes are the best combo,

Korey Harbke 03-03-2005 03:16 PM

Yes Jesse, it was the entire motor. Since they are not roar legal, Orion/peak only did a limited run of them. I didn't think the v2 system had more rpm, for me it had less than the standard one I have. The brush overlap around the com is smaller than when compared to a laydown brush. That explains the rpm loss, but you also get a cooler running motor with arching, less fade, more torque, and less brush/com wear. The V2 technology even give less com/brush wear. The motor is good, same amount of power, just has a different powerband along with some other benefits.

-Korey

jzone 03-03-2005 05:37 PM

Thanks guys, all this info is going to prove very usfull for me to help develope a better running motor of this kind.

Jess

jzone 03-04-2005 12:19 AM

IF you're using the harder springs in the V2 version, would you use the same for laydowns? From what I've seen so far is the use of a softer spring compound. For regular brushes.

hugh janus 03-04-2005 11:34 AM

also, try grey or silver springs w/ a softer brush..all of the fast dynasty's that i have used and seen shared those two common bonds

Korey Harbke 03-04-2005 12:38 PM

Yeah, from what I heard hard springs are the ticket.

-Korey

rc-zombies 03-04-2005 12:50 PM

Sushi Boy...

Take back the Rain!!! it's hard to start the outdoor racing season...when it's raining more in N.Cal. than in the Seattle area...:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

UW alumuni...

:D

Korey Harbke 03-04-2005 01:52 PM

NOOOOOOOO It's actually sunny here!!!!!!

jzone 03-04-2005 05:35 PM

17*C here in Vancouver today............:D

I will try a few setups on the motor and try them out at our next club race tomorrow:nod:

Korey Harbke 03-04-2005 09:08 PM

just remember gear to the moon!!!!!!!!!! lol

jzone 03-04-2005 10:44 PM

Thanks Sushi, I will over Gear it...............:lol: :D

Korey Harbke 03-04-2005 10:56 PM

PERFECT!!!!!!

Bluey_74 03-05-2005 05:27 PM

gearing
 
Sushi,
i ran last night at 5.875.
Tall enough!!

Korey Harbke 03-05-2005 07:54 PM

sounds good to me lol.

-Korey

jzone 03-05-2005 10:47 PM

had a fun run w/ the motor today. Kept gearing up the motor every run and every run it just kept getting better.

We'll have to see how it runns on an EVO4 in a couple of weeks for our first race of the TCS.:sneaky:

Got a different power band than the C2 . Not bad though.


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