2LikesTamiya F104 Version 2
07-07-2012, 01:28 PM
#166
Tech Regular
Just got my ver. 2, what are must need spare parts?
07-07-2012, 06:51 PM
#167
Exclusive to the V2
Alloy roll damper
Side links
Side spring set
For all f104's
Front springs
Front arms
C clips that hold the spring in place. I know the V2 uses E-clips but I find the C clips from the prior model f104's better especially if you do remove and re-fit the clip a number of times.
Rear wing
That pretty much covers anything you can break/lose on the f104. Especially if you upgraded the v2 with some additional alloy & carbon options.
Alloy roll damper
Side links
Side spring set
For all f104's
Front springs
Front arms
C clips that hold the spring in place. I know the V2 uses E-clips but I find the C clips from the prior model f104's better especially if you do remove and re-fit the clip a number of times.
Rear wing
That pretty much covers anything you can break/lose on the f104. Especially if you upgraded the v2 with some additional alloy & carbon options.
07-08-2012, 10:16 PM
#168
Want to try some shimizu rubber on my v2 and tryed some of the softest rear tamiya rubber tyres with there hardest fronts and found it had good rear grip but no front grip and huge under steer with no steering compared to the soft/hard tamiya foam combo I also had tryed.
Its winter here so temps about 10C if you are lucky and running on outdoor ashphelt and what combo would you guys suggest?
cheers.
Its winter here so temps about 10C if you are lucky and running on outdoor ashphelt and what combo would you guys suggest?
cheers.
07-08-2012, 11:22 PM
#169
Want to try some shimizu rubber on my v2 and tryed some of the softest rear tamiya rubber tyres with there hardest fronts and found it had good rear grip but no front grip and huge under steer with no steering compared to the soft/hard tamiya foam combo I also had tryed.
Its winter here so temps about 10C if you are lucky and running on outdoor ashphelt and what combo would you guys suggest?
cheers.
Its winter here so temps about 10C if you are lucky and running on outdoor ashphelt and what combo would you guys suggest?
cheers.
07-09-2012, 01:11 AM
#170
cheers and rc mart have both of those 
07-10-2012, 04:23 AM
#171
My V2 is home but I'm afraid I will not be able to finish my car for this weekends race.
Please share your setup experience. I found AE black soft spring (looks much softer with more coils than the stock gold Tamiya spring), don't know if it fits the RM-01 damper but I'm going to try it...
Please share your setup experience. I found AE black soft spring (looks much softer with more coils than the stock gold Tamiya spring), don't know if it fits the RM-01 damper but I'm going to try it...
07-10-2012, 03:09 PM
#172
Tech Apprentice
Thread lock of choice these day's?
F104 Kit suggests a Tamiya thread lock, but usually I find they are pretty much the same type of thing.
I also have just got a Xray T3, so will need thread lock for that as well.
(I'm getting back into racing after 12 year break, so I'm sure most people have found thread locks that work well now).
F104 Kit suggests a Tamiya thread lock, but usually I find they are pretty much the same type of thing.
I also have just got a Xray T3, so will need thread lock for that as well.
(I'm getting back into racing after 12 year break, so I'm sure most people have found thread locks that work well now).
07-10-2012, 03:58 PM
#173
Thread lock of choice these day's?
F104 Kit suggests a Tamiya thread lock, but usually I find they are pretty much the same type of thing.
I also have just got a Xray T3, so will need thread lock for that as well.
(I'm getting back into racing after 12 year break, so I'm sure most people have found thread locks that work well now).
F104 Kit suggests a Tamiya thread lock, but usually I find they are pretty much the same type of thing.
I also have just got a Xray T3, so will need thread lock for that as well.
(I'm getting back into racing after 12 year break, so I'm sure most people have found thread locks that work well now).
07-10-2012, 07:44 PM
#174
Tech Apprentice
upright
Guys...need help on the upright setting...
I buy the hop up upright...now my question is...on the original upright there are 2 spacer on top and 1 spacer bottom...where on hop up, there are 1 each spacer on top and bottom...
So do you put all of them on the hop up? So its become 3 top and 2 bottom?
Because when I put only 1 each side..there is a play and I'm still using the original kingpin which do not have 2 e-clip to hold the spacer...
Thanks
I buy the hop up upright...now my question is...on the original upright there are 2 spacer on top and 1 spacer bottom...where on hop up, there are 1 each spacer on top and bottom...
So do you put all of them on the hop up? So its become 3 top and 2 bottom?
Because when I put only 1 each side..there is a play and I'm still using the original kingpin which do not have 2 e-clip to hold the spacer...
Thanks
07-10-2012, 08:05 PM
#175
For thread lock you might look at the associated thread lock. It's the same as the loctite brand but they put it in a nice bottle that makes it really easy to get very small amounts onto screws without making a mess. It does cost more but IMO the bottle is totally worth it.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...cking-Adhesive
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...cking-Adhesive
07-11-2012, 01:07 AM
#176
...on the original upright there are 2 spacer on top and 1 spacer bottom...where on hop up, there are 1 each spacer on top and bottom...
So do you put all of them on the hop up? So its become 3 top and 2 bottom?
Because when I put only 1 each side..there is a play and I'm still using the original kingpin which do not have 2 e-clip to hold the spacer...
So do you put all of them on the hop up? So its become 3 top and 2 bottom?
Because when I put only 1 each side..there is a play and I'm still using the original kingpin which do not have 2 e-clip to hold the spacer...
EDIT: It looks that I'm wrong, those 1.5mm spacers are probably needed to match the size of the stock plastic uprights. Make sure that the size of uprights with (stock) spacers is the same with stock and with hop up uprights! For the F104 arms You do need F104 king pins so that should be OK but don't forget to tighten the set screw in upright that holds the king pin...
Last edited by dfx; 07-11-2012 at 06:34 AM.
07-11-2012, 11:44 AM
#177
Get the L parts (side links) and front suspension parts (plastic)
Those are the two must have parts in your pit box.
Also, here are some base set ups in case anyone wanted to get a decent starting point using rubber tires on both carpet and asphalt.
http://www.teamtrf.com/index.php/set...ategory/7-f104
Those are the two must have parts in your pit box.
Also, here are some base set ups in case anyone wanted to get a decent starting point using rubber tires on both carpet and asphalt.
http://www.teamtrf.com/index.php/set...ategory/7-f104
07-12-2012, 12:34 AM
#178
Tech Apprentice
Use only the 3 original spacers...
EDIT: It looks that I'm wrong, those 1.5mm spacers are probably needed to match the size of the stock plastic uprights. Make sure that the size of uprights with (stock) spacers is the same with stock and with hop up uprights! For the F104 arms You do need F104 king pins so that should be OK but don't forget to tighten the set screw in upright that holds the king pin...
EDIT: It looks that I'm wrong, those 1.5mm spacers are probably needed to match the size of the stock plastic uprights. Make sure that the size of uprights with (stock) spacers is the same with stock and with hop up uprights! For the F104 arms You do need F104 king pins so that should be OK but don't forget to tighten the set screw in upright that holds the king pin...
so it will be 3 spacer on top and 2 spacer on bottom...since the hop up upright is shorter than the original plastic upright.
one more question... the screw on the upright, its suppose to screw it to center of the kingpin? which have line for e-ring? or it can be anywhere...
thanks
07-12-2012, 02:21 AM
#179
so it will be 3 spacer on top and 2 spacer on bottom...since the hop up upright is shorter than the original plastic upright.
one more question... the screw on the upright, its suppose to screw it to center of the kingpin? which have line for e-ring? or it can be anywhere...
one more question... the screw on the upright, its suppose to screw it to center of the kingpin? which have line for e-ring? or it can be anywhere...
Set screw can be anywhere (it depeds on the ride height adjustment) but the front suspension works best when the upright doesn't slide on king pin...therefore the screw needs to be tighten (threadlock recommended).
07-12-2012, 06:38 AM
#180
Tech Apprentice
One silver spacer at the top and one at the bottom should be the stock position (equal to the plastic upright) but all spacers can be used to adjust ride height.
Set screw can be anywhere (it depeds on the ride height adjustment) but the front suspension works best when the upright doesn't slide on king pin...therefore the screw needs to be tighten (threadlock recommended).
Set screw can be anywhere (it depeds on the ride height adjustment) but the front suspension works best when the upright doesn't slide on king pin...therefore the screw needs to be tighten (threadlock recommended).
I will try the setup from the trf website...will see how it goes tomorrow...