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Old 04-03-2016, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TOM MAR
Hello Mark, I was reading up on this & thought I would throw this out there.
I just purchased a remanufactured Boss 25.5 motor directly from Novak. I needed to install a 21.5 stator for a local class & when I opened it, it came with a smco rotor.
Just a heads up on how they may be showing up in motors.

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Interesting. Maybe they are using up their rotor stock.

I'd be interested in hearing about a back to back test with the 'normal' 12.3 rotor and SmCo rotor. Report back with anything you find?

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It's interesting because now motors being purchased new from the factory aren't legal.

That's going to deter new drivers from coming into the class.
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Old 04-03-2016, 06:24 PM
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Just so you know, I did not buy the new motor. I bought the $75 re-maned motor. I don't know about the new motors.

It still should not happen if they are not legal.

Just to make sure I am right I will take the motor apart & post a picture


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Old 04-03-2016, 07:13 PM
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I hope I am wrong, here are the pics. Please lmk if this is a smco for sure. I apologize now if I was wrong.

U.S. Vintage Trans-Am Racing Part 2-imag0010.jpg

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Originally Posted by scirocco14
Interesting. Maybe they are using up their rotor stock.

I'd be interested in hearing about a back to back test with the 'normal' 12.3 rotor and SmCo rotor. Report back with anything you find?

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Will do, I just sent Novak an email asking for a clarification

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Yep, that's a SmCo rotor. I personally don't think they are an advantage.

According to the rules, only 12.3mm rotors are allowed. No tuning rotors, only stock Novak rotors.

Would this be considered a 'stock Novak rotor'? It is 12.3mm, is a Novak rotor, and came in a re-manufactured motor from the factory.

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My understanding was Novak created SmCo rotors because China announced they were closing & or limiting the mining of Neo material. It would have driven the price of rotors to around $130 to $150 each. It put a stop to it. At least that is the rumor I heard.

I have legal 12.3 rotors that I can use to compare & an I Guass. I will check them on the I Guass this week.

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I recently tested both....one of my motors had a smco in it and I was totaly unaware of. The motor was put together in early 2010?...and only been apart 2 times...2012 and 2014 Snowbirds....but tech noticed it at the Summit Indoor Nationals. I tried 4 different rotors in the same can/stator and saw almost the same numbers....this checking RPM/KV/Amp...

The only thing I can think of that may give it an advantage is it maybe cooler....I might give that a try Wednesday to see if any temps come into play.

FYI...even the small difference between them....the NEO was the best of the bunch...
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Originally Posted by DARKSIDE
I recently tested both....one of my motors had a smco in it and I was totaly unaware of. The motor was put together in early 2010?...and only been apart 2 times...2012 and 2014 Snowbirds....but tech noticed it at the Summit Indoor Nationals. I tried 4 different rotors in the same can/stator and saw almost the same numbers....this checking RPM/KV/Amp...

The only thing I can think of that may give it an advantage is it maybe cooler....I might give that a try Wednesday to see if any temps come into play.

FYI...even the small difference between them....the NEO was the best of the bunch...
That's what I'm thinking, Myron. I can't see that the SmCo would make the motor run any cooler, just would have a teensy, teensy, itty bit more power when the motor got over 180F. By then, you're giving up power to heat anyway.

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Originally Posted by xevias
One of my hobby shop buddies in Shanghai is clearing out his warehouse to move to a different location. He's just discovered about 30 of the discontinued Plymouth Cuda bodies (HPI17510).

Do you guys think there is still a market for these in the US? I'm guessing it would be about $40 a piece to get to your door, but really have no idea.
Absolutely! Cuda was popular and we were sorry to see it go.

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Novak answered me today. They apologized & let me know they are aware that some SmCo rotors got in some motors & are sending me a replacement Neo rotor. As before I have had excellent cust service.
I guess it was fortunate I ordered directly from them.

When it comes in I will compare them on the IGuass

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I'm afraid to check mine. Ordered a few months through Tower...
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I just took my factory rebuilt 25.5 from Novak, the rotor on it says it's a 4500-3. Does anyone know what this is?

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by glennhl
I just took my factory rebuilt 25.5 from Novak, the rotor on it says it's a 4500-3. Does anyone know what this is?

Thanks,
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Can you post a picture? Is it shiny or dull ?
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Old 04-04-2016, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by iTz Nicholas72
I'm afraid to check mine. Ordered a few months through Tower...

I ordered mine the end of Sep. & had I not needed to change stators I would not have known. I would think as long as you have a receipt. I doubt there would be a problem as I doubt very many were ordered.

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