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Old 11-04-2011, 07:12 AM
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Just wondering if anyone is aware of the thoughts of the hudy setup station amongst the pros?

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Just wondering if anyone is aware of the thoughts of the hudy setup station amongst the pros?

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Hi Nathan, it is a much used tool in the pitts at every big race for me and many others. I use the camber guages for camber and toe religiously, many use the droop blocks also for droop, I do not for droop but i use the droop blocks for tweaking my chassis a lot, (put blocks under F/R of my chassis to see if my chassis is tweaked atall). the tweak station that comes with the all inclusive case is aplicible but not used as much by the pros.

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Just wondering if anyone is aware of the thoughts of the hudy setup station amongst the pros?

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Over priced, the integy works nicely and its way cheaper!!!!
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Originally Posted by For_the_win
Over priced, the integy works nicely and its way cheaper!!!!
I have an Integy setup station. Yes it's much cheaper, but it's not as precise as a Hudy. It does the job, but if I come across a deal on a Hudy setup station, I'll replace my Integy station in a heartbeat. Just a bit too much slop for my liking.
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Just wondering if anyone is aware of the thoughts of the hudy setup station amongst the pros?

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Anything Hudy is top notch. I use the Integy although many people use nothing.

Camber can be adjusted pretty easily without a station. The benefit of a station is that you can adjust toe- in with some accuracy plus adjust the toe-in as you adjust front camber.
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i think the better question would be are most people using the HUDY station

remember most Pro (sponsored drivers) will have some sort of deal. So they may opt to use what is cheaper for the pocket or what is mandated to be used.

I will say most of the tracks i visited HUDY seems to be most utilized setup station.
by far the easiest to see when reading the numbers.
and the quality is by far the best.

just my 2cents of course.

it's almost the weekend i am getting my stuff ready.
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I got rid of my Integy station due to the slop in it. The variance was about +/-1.5 degrees on camber. Not too good.

The Hudy is machined much tighter and is very repeatable, something I could never get with the Integy. Yes it cost more but then so do good quality tools. You do get what you pay for here.
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Ronald Volker (who takes the Yokomo designer/mechanic with him to races) has posted on this forum that he does not use the setup station. Just ride height gauge, camber gauge and a droop gauge.

I'm with him - what is the point of taking the wheels off a car to take measurements, when the car will always have the wheels on when you actually use it?
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Originally Posted by sosidge
Ronald Volker (who takes the Yokomo designer/mechanic with him to races) has posted on this forum that he does not use the setup station. Just ride height gauge, camber gauge and a droop gauge.

I'm with him - what is the point of taking the wheels off a car to take measurements, when the car will always have the wheels on when you actually use it?
I think it's something to do with the setup station being half a degree off when compared to a camber gauge.
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Originally Posted by sosidge
Ronald Volker (who takes the Yokomo designer/mechanic with him to races) has posted on this forum that he does not use the setup station. Just ride height gauge, camber gauge and a droop gauge.

I'm with him - what is the point of taking the wheels off a car to take measurements, when the car will always have the wheels on when you actually use it?
Because almost no wheels are straight. Try checking your camber with the wheels on, Then turn the spur gear a 1/4 turn and check again. Your camber will most likely change..

The only good way to do it this way is by using setup wheels. Then it kinda is the same thing as a setup station without the accuracy.
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Originally Posted by sosidge
I'm with him - what is the point of taking the wheels off a car to take measurements, when the car will always have the wheels on when you actually use it?
Im not sure I follow?

The camber and toe angles will be the same with or without wheels on the car. And if you are using used wheels/tires to set the car up, odds are very high that you will have a whele that is not perfectly true.

I found +/- 1.0 degree variance in camber with a brand new set of Solaris wheels, depending on where I measured on the wheel. Some of the other wheels in the set were better, but 2 of them were off enough that I could not get repeatable trustworthy results without the setup station.
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Originally Posted by L.Fairtrace
Because almost no wheels are straight. Try checking your camber with the wheels on, Then turn the spur gear a 1/4 turn and check again. Your camber will most likely change..

The only good way to do it this way is by using setup wheels. Then it kinda is the same thing as a setup station without the accuracy.
Very true. New wheels lead to a surprising amount of inaccuracy, used wheels make that problem worse. While the process involves a little more work, the setup station is really the only way to apply consistent camber and toe settings to your chassis.
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Originally Posted by defcone
I think it's something to do with the setup station being half a degree off when compared to a camber gauge.
Regardless of whether the station is off slightly compared to measuring with, say, setup wheels(ie: wheels on the car that are perfectly true), as long as you use the same method during your testing/racing you will be able to get the results you want.
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Originally Posted by JamesL_71
Regardless of whether the station is off slightly compared to measuring with, say, setup wheels(ie: wheels on the car that are perfectly true), as long as you use the same method during your testing/racing you will be able to get the results you want.
Agreed. Whether or not the actual values are off by a tiny bit, your reference points (in this case, your measurements) have to be consistent.
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I remember one time at the track one of the locals came by and said that he doesn't need one of those things, he can do it by eyeing the wheel. When he brought his car over to show how good he is was when he got a shock. One wheel had 2° and the other three had between -2.5° to -6° all set by eyeing with a coke can and used wheels. His driving somehow improved after we set him up, imagine that!
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