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Old 09-27-2004, 07:38 PM   #241
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Todd, if during this testing process you are in need of test marketing the car to middle aged grumpy guys with no driving skill ...I'd be willing to help out, just lmk
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Doesn't look like there's a whole lot of room for battery bars or orion plugson either side. I hate hard wiring so i use the orion plugs. Hmmmm. maybe if I had the car i would connect my batteries on the side opposite the rear pulley......
Oh I dunno .....I wonder how the Team is doing it
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I got the Horizon Tork mag in the mail today, and the new xxxs (sport) is in it. it is called the xxxs sport RTR 2 and its due in december. Price:270.00.
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Todd, if during this testing process you are in need of test marketing the car to middle aged grumpy guys with no driving skill ...I'd be willing to help out, just lmk
Don't wanna be rude here, but I suppose that's the kind of crap they wanted to avoid by not wanting to show the car...
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Old 09-27-2004, 07:48 PM   #245
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There's no TORQUE STEER on a belt driven car. The problem on the pro3 came from the big difference in length of the two diff halves, the long one was twisting under power giving a tendancy to go on one side. Looks like the same problem may occur here.
Torque steer comes from having two different length axles, not having the pulley offset to one side or another.

That's why most higher-perf FWD cars use a bearing-supported halfshaft to allow the use of equal-length drive axles.

The Pro 3 has equal-length axles...so any "torque steer" didn't come from that.
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Old 09-27-2004, 08:00 PM   #246
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TC3/4 have different legnth diff halfs

so did the

yokomo mr4tc/ yr4/ yz10/ mx4
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Torque steer comes from the torque applied by the motor on the chassis when you acelerate. On a shaft driven car the motor lifts the left side of the car, thus there's more pressure on the right tires than on the left ones, resulting in a difference in grip and thus resulting in the car drifting to the left side.

A comparable effect could be seen on the pro3 as the diff halves were of very different sizes and out of plastic, when torque was applied on the diff pulley by the belt, one outdrive would twist much more than the other, resulting in a difference in time response to acceleration on the left and right wheel.

I don't know what you tried to explain, didn't understand what you're talking about.
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The only touring car I ever seen with "equal" length diff halves was the.....XXX-S.
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TC3/4 have different legnth diff halfs

so did the

yokomo mr4tc/ yr4/ yz10/ mx4
true, but on the pro3 the difference was massive and you could actually twist the longer outdrive with your own hands, thing that can not be done with the cars you mentioned.
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The only touring car I ever seen with "equal" length diff halves was the.....XXX-S.
What about the mission 1 and 2, the assassin, robitronic, PTI, Kawada, etc, etc ?
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The only touring car I ever seen with "equal" length diff halves was the.....XXX-S.
OOPS..forgot about that Kyosho KX-ONE and the older Schumacher AXIS cars. lol
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OOPS..forgot about that Kyosho KX-ONE and the older Schumacher AXIS cars. lol
You forgot many more than that mate
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What about the mission 1 and 2, the assassin, robitronic, PTI, Kawada, etc, etc ?
OOPS LOL
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true, but on the pro3 the difference was massive and you could actually twist the longer outdrive with your own hands, thing that can not be done with the cars you mentioned.
perhaps the tourque steer was because of poor quality diffs, and not the diffference in size...

you claim that it is because of the size, when in fact it is because HPI's are junk.


TC3 had some tourque steer due to the rotation of the motor and poor balance. Not because its diff had different size outdrives.
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has everyone forgotten the street weapon???
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