Originally Posted by terry.sc (Post 9056185)

As long as the manufacturers after the discussions with ROAR know what is expected by zero timing then all ESCs should be programmed with the exact same timing in them all for blinky mode. If you want to know what the specification is the ROAR specs will be the same as the BRCA use here in the UK. The BRCA publish how they expect a zero timing ESC to operate, see below, and any ESC raced at a BRCA meeting can be taken away for analysis after the meeting to check it meets these specs.

Originally Posted by sidecarphil1 (Post 9055748)

We had our first national championship race this weekend with stock 0 timing with all the Roar speedos and it was great , no cooked motors , all the same speed (fixed gearing) and the results were great close racing.

Originally Posted by miller tyme (Post 9056338)

Just to keep it relevant to ROAR, what wind motors were used. And how big was the track.

Originally Posted by sidecarphil1 (Post 9056627)

Only the speed passion 13.5v3 is allowed and the track was a largeish outdoor 1:8th track

We are not governed by ROAR but we use the ROAR list for speedos

Originally Posted by macdude (Post 9056268)

Thanks. This is good to know.

Originally Posted by terry.sc (Post 9056185)

As long as the manufacturers after the discussions with ROAR know what is expected by zero timing then all ESCs should be programmed with the exact same timing in them all for blinky mode. If you want to know what the specification is the ROAR specs will be the same as the BRCA use here in the UK. The BRCA publish how they expect a zero timing ESC to operate, see below, and any ESC raced at a BRCA meeting can be taken away for analysis after the meeting to check it meets these specs.

Originally Posted by SlowerOne (Post 9055863)

Granted, but since people do not want to learn the lessons of history (25 years of running BR motors with 'fixed timing') they are condemned to repeat them. I said that the BL development would end up with a laptop on every pit table, and was told that was rubbish. I expect the same again, but can't resist "I told you so" - you read that here first!!

Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX (Post 9058050)

I predict we will have access to our cars via bluetooth, & mobile phones.
You read it here first :lol:

Originally Posted by locked (Post 9026754)

The most popular class at the track I frequent is 17.5 boosted. I've been racing in that class all winter, but around a month ago I decided to set up a second car to race in the 21.5 "VTA/GT2" class, just so I could get some more track time and not have to wait around most of the day for my next heat. I'm thinking about going back to just running 17.5 boosted though because in 21.5 blinky I can drive the entire track at WOT. I can get slightly faster lap times if I let off for a split second on 2 corners. It really is quite boring and just screws up my timing for the faster class, so I think I'll drop it. I can't imagine how painfully dull true 25.5 USVTA must be. It's good for some people to learn how to steer and drive the best lines, but it doesn't even require a precise setup. If you get the ride height close and the car tracking straight, you're pretty much good to go. I've had many people comment on how dialed my 21.5 blinky car looks, but I know the setup on it is garbage, it just doesn't matter very much when you're going that slow.

I've won several 21.5 blinky A-mains, but I feel no sense of accomplishment from it. I'm far more excited when I win a 17.5 super stock B-Main or simply make it to the A-main in that class.

Originally Posted by nashrcracer (Post 9027188)

actually story at my track I have had about 5 to 7 offroad guys come race onroad 17.5 NB with RDX and 007 cars that have sat on the shelf since the speed control wars the last 2 or 3 years. one guy is running a GTB and the other running a lrp comp TC sphere. they wanted to race but don't what to figure out gearing or what ESC setting work best for which track layouts. And I don't know about you but I know the lrp x12 is the best motor for boost and the duo3 or ballistic are both good for NB so choice is always good. now some of these guys jumped into TC 17.5 NB running competitive laps straight off the back. I have had 4 SPXs 3 black diamonds and 3 tekins in the last 3 year. they are still running a GTB from 4 years ago Non boosted and being in the game. We're talking club racing here. Now I run a lrp comp sphere 007 and it doesn't matter what speed control I use it's all about driver at this point. If I run boosted it's Tekin or nothing else. SSX, black diamond, GM, speed passion all suck to tekin in boosted class. Kudos to tekin for getting it right but still doesn't make sense. And for the people that say give it 2 years and boosted will be the only thing. Um it's been 2 or 3 years since it was ALL non-boosted and we are going back to non-boosted. I think boosted has had it's swing, and it fell off it.

Originally Posted by robk (Post 9027747)

LOL:D

Originally Posted by EAMotorsports (Post 9058197)

Your too late. There is already a speedo that has Blue tooth technology that you can change settins while you are driving on the track (or your crew can rather). Its already been outlawed in some countries.

EA

Originally Posted by DARKSIDE (Post 9058215)

We also gained several TC guys cause of the non boosted crap...its helped our club with entries all winter long, which keeps us and many like it open so we have a place to race and enjoy this hobby/sport....so if its a vote...Im on the NB side

Originally Posted by miller tyme (Post 9056718)

I only asked for comparison to the US. The general issue is with 17.5 on the smaller, tighter carpet tracks, in this case the boosted is much faster and cooler.
The 13.5 and the openness of the 1/8 track, I would Imagine, do not require the same constant accelerations form tight corners, that is where the Heat is built up and where Boosted really helps.

Originally Posted by syndr0me (Post 9058769)

Bluetooth ESC's for what, to adjust drag brake? Not much else to change in blinky.

Anyway, I doubt you'd reliably be able to change anything while the cars are moving, our transmitters already stomp all over other 2.4ghz devices. Ever noticed how WiFi is crappy at every track?