Tamiya TRF417
#6091
#6092
http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=1865
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http://www.tqrcracing.com/shop/produ....asp?p_id=5751
#6094
edit. must be a 1 hr delay?? did not see responses above
Last edited by bobbyvegas; 10-09-2013 at 09:08 PM. Reason: weird delay
#6096
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
That's nowhere near enough, you need to pack it fairly tight or it will diff out on power
To pack mine I put the sun gear in, put some putty in, then put the planetary gears in and press down, then pull bits of putty and stab them in with a driver. A little more putty on top and close the diff
It should not be possible to turn the outdrives by hand, but if you put wheels on the car or put drivers through the outdrive you should be able to turn them. For the first few laps it will feel like a spool on track, then the putty will warm up and it will gain grip and steering - the car doesn't feel super consistent during the run but IMO on asphalt it's better than a spool
To pack mine I put the sun gear in, put some putty in, then put the planetary gears in and press down, then pull bits of putty and stab them in with a driver. A little more putty on top and close the diff
It should not be possible to turn the outdrives by hand, but if you put wheels on the car or put drivers through the outdrive you should be able to turn them. For the first few laps it will feel like a spool on track, then the putty will warm up and it will gain grip and steering - the car doesn't feel super consistent during the run but IMO on asphalt it's better than a spool
#6097
#6098
Hi,
Quick "greener" question :-). thx for the comments in advance.
1. how much "spacer" should it put under front pivot block not to have anti-dive if I replace split mount with fix in the front-rear (1Xb to B). As a kit set up, there is 0.5-0.5m.
2. If you run on very high grip carpet - using front: white, rear blue tamiya springs - what oil would you use to "loose" some grip since car is oversteering can roll over :-(. I used 450#. front dampers in the 3rd hole, rear in the 5th..... I felt my car too soft.
Thanks
Marton
Quick "greener" question :-). thx for the comments in advance.
1. how much "spacer" should it put under front pivot block not to have anti-dive if I replace split mount with fix in the front-rear (1Xb to B). As a kit set up, there is 0.5-0.5m.
2. If you run on very high grip carpet - using front: white, rear blue tamiya springs - what oil would you use to "loose" some grip since car is oversteering can roll over :-(. I used 450#. front dampers in the 3rd hole, rear in the 5th..... I felt my car too soft.
Thanks
Marton
#6099
Tech Regular
iTrader: (8)
Hi,
Quick "greener" question :-). thx for the comments in advance.
1. how much "spacer" should it put under front pivot block not to have anti-dive if I replace split mount with fix in the front-rear (1Xb to B). As a kit set up, there is 0.5-0.5m.
2. If you run on very high grip carpet - using front: white, rear blue tamiya springs - what oil would you use to "loose" some grip since car is oversteering can roll over :-(. I used 450#. front dampers in the 3rd hole, rear in the 5th..... I felt my car too soft.
Thanks
Marton
Quick "greener" question :-). thx for the comments in advance.
1. how much "spacer" should it put under front pivot block not to have anti-dive if I replace split mount with fix in the front-rear (1Xb to B). As a kit set up, there is 0.5-0.5m.
2. If you run on very high grip carpet - using front: white, rear blue tamiya springs - what oil would you use to "loose" some grip since car is oversteering can roll over :-(. I used 450#. front dampers in the 3rd hole, rear in the 5th..... I felt my car too soft.
Thanks
Marton
The over steer and over roll will be caused by your shock positions...
Stand your front shocks up to hole 5 , and lay your rear shocks down to hole 4. If that doesn't fix the over steer then go up in shock oil to 500.
#6100
Tech Master
iTrader: (59)
Today I got the chance to run with the smokem V7 chassis and have to say I was really impressed. The car ended up being unsettling when making quick adjustments at high speeds, the infamous kink at Tamiya America track. I found that putting grub screws in both the upper and lower front motor mount through the chassis and top deck fixed the problem. I also ended using DCJs in the rear today for the first time and really liked how they helped the car with rotational speed it seemed like the car liked to carry more speed around the long bends the track has.
In short I have to say I strongly recommend this upgrade kit for people that aren't jumping for the raceberry.
In short I have to say I strongly recommend this upgrade kit for people that aren't jumping for the raceberry.
#6101
Hi,
Quick "greener" question :-). thx for the comments in advance.
1. how much "spacer" should it put under front pivot block not to have anti-dive if I replace split mount with fix in the front-rear (1Xb to B). As a kit set up, there is 0.5-0.5m.
2. If you run on very high grip carpet - using front: white, rear blue tamiya springs - what oil would you use to "loose" some grip since car is oversteering can roll over :-(. I used 450#. front dampers in the 3rd hole, rear in the 5th..... I felt my car too soft.
Thanks
Marton
Quick "greener" question :-). thx for the comments in advance.
1. how much "spacer" should it put under front pivot block not to have anti-dive if I replace split mount with fix in the front-rear (1Xb to B). As a kit set up, there is 0.5-0.5m.
2. If you run on very high grip carpet - using front: white, rear blue tamiya springs - what oil would you use to "loose" some grip since car is oversteering can roll over :-(. I used 450#. front dampers in the 3rd hole, rear in the 5th..... I felt my car too soft.
Thanks
Marton
#6102
Narcotics - thanks. stock position were given from the top to bottom, I might confuse you. So I think I was close to your advise. stock was assembled as jill tip (piston fully up). I will try to go up in oil (holes 3).
NGO8 - thanks, very interesting theory. I will try next time. however I do feel the softer my car the more traction it has. As I can read you make wider the front and narrower the rear? What camber would you suggest?
the motor is 12T brushless, so speed is quite high. camber front 1.5, rear 2. toe 2, gear diff - 70 putty front, 2000 oil rear, sway bar - hard fron, soft rear. I found gear diff in front is better than solid.
BTW - i put cement on the outer edge of the front tyres and improved a lot - no traction roll -, but I felt still I can gain some speed if car would be more hard...
thanks the tips, keep hearing it :-)!
NGO8 - thanks, very interesting theory. I will try next time. however I do feel the softer my car the more traction it has. As I can read you make wider the front and narrower the rear? What camber would you suggest?
the motor is 12T brushless, so speed is quite high. camber front 1.5, rear 2. toe 2, gear diff - 70 putty front, 2000 oil rear, sway bar - hard fron, soft rear. I found gear diff in front is better than solid.
BTW - i put cement on the outer edge of the front tyres and improved a lot - no traction roll -, but I felt still I can gain some speed if car would be more hard...
thanks the tips, keep hearing it :-)!
#6103
Narcotics - thanks. stock position were given from the top to bottom, I might confuse you. So I think I was close to your advise. stock was assembled as jill tip (piston fully up). I will try to go up in oil (holes 3).
NGO8 - thanks, very interesting theory. I will try next time. however I do feel the softer my car the more traction it has. As I can read you make wider the front and narrower the rear? What camber would you suggest?
the motor is 12T brushless, so speed is quite high. camber front 1.5, rear 2. toe 2, gear diff - 70 putty front, 2000 oil rear, sway bar - hard fron, soft rear. I found gear diff in front is better than solid.
BTW - i put cement on the outer edge of the front tyres and improved a lot - no traction roll -, but I felt still I can gain some speed if car would be more hard...
thanks the tips, keep hearing it :-)!
NGO8 - thanks, very interesting theory. I will try next time. however I do feel the softer my car the more traction it has. As I can read you make wider the front and narrower the rear? What camber would you suggest?
the motor is 12T brushless, so speed is quite high. camber front 1.5, rear 2. toe 2, gear diff - 70 putty front, 2000 oil rear, sway bar - hard fron, soft rear. I found gear diff in front is better than solid.
BTW - i put cement on the outer edge of the front tyres and improved a lot - no traction roll -, but I felt still I can gain some speed if car would be more hard...
thanks the tips, keep hearing it :-)!
#6104
Can anyone give me a hand on how to fix my issue. Took shocks off car, put droop identical side to side then attached the shocks. When I lift the back end one wheel picks up 1/4 inch than the other. Same with the front but not as much.
Sway bars are equal
I changed from trf shocks to the v5 ones
What's the trick to fixing this or adjust with the opposite front shock?
Sway bars are equal
I changed from trf shocks to the v5 ones
What's the trick to fixing this or adjust with the opposite front shock?
#6105
Tech Master
iTrader: (59)
Can anyone give me a hand on how to fix my issue. Took shocks off car, put droop identical side to side then attached the shocks. When I lift the back end one wheel picks up 1/4 inch than the other. Same with the front but not as much.
Sway bars are equal
I changed from trf shocks to the v5 ones
What's the trick to fixing this or adjust with the opposite front shock?
Sway bars are equal
I changed from trf shocks to the v5 ones
What's the trick to fixing this or adjust with the opposite front shock?
Also you need to make sure the compression on your shocks is equal. If a wheel is raising faster than another you should tighten the shock collar that is diagonally across from it to try to balance it out. For instance is the left rear tire is raising faster than the right rear you should tighten the shock collar on the right front shock and loosen the left front shock collar the same amount. You usually only want to do this type of adjustment by 1/4 turns as you don't want this to affect your ride height.