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Originally Posted by simple
(Post 15791095)
This is getting outta control... Do all things lead to an ugly wedge?!
HARD PASS https://www.redrc.net/2021/05/xtreme...y/#more-199360 ETC has already banned it from competition under their umbrella. |
Originally Posted by mrreet2001
(Post 15791155)
While I do see a trend of USGT bodies going this way, isn't this a Fronti body? Is this even going to be USGT legal?
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Originally Posted by anthonyscardina
(Post 15791373)
I've not had a look at the rules in a while, but FWD certainly used to be allowed, and with no minimum weight at that. I've only ever seen a couple guys try it. I considered the T4F but it came out right as the local track shut down.
Example: Protoform Europa 1565 Is not on the USGT list. Also the Bitty HC-F isn't on the approved list. |
A Body does not have to be on "the list" to be approved...
"Body Specifications: Refer to body list for currently available/approved bodies. FWD MUST use FWD bodies." "Scale realism consideration: Bodies intended for the USGT class should conform as closely as possible to the full scale car it represents." "Body approval is a subjective process" "DISCONTINUED BODIES: Discontinued unlisted bodies will be added as the USVTA sees fit to add them in based on the spirit of the class. Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you want to deviate from the Body list for local racing DISCONTINUED BODIES general guidelines: *Any 190mm or 200mm body appropriate for this class. *Body can be any body that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list." Up until recently, all the FWD bodies have fallen within these guidelines, without ALL being on "the list".... |
Originally Posted by simple
(Post 15791396)
A Body does not have to be on "the list" to be approved...
"Body Specifications: Refer to body list for currently available/approved bodies. FWD MUST use FWD bodies." "Scale realism consideration: Bodies intended for the USGT class should conform as closely as possible to the full scale car it represents." "Body approval is a subjective process" "DISCONTINUED BODIES: Discontinued unlisted bodies will be added as the USVTA sees fit to add them in based on the spirit of the class. Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you want to deviate from the Body list for local racing DISCONTINUED BODIES general guidelines: *Any 190mm or 200mm body appropriate for this class. *Body can be any body that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list." Up until recently, all the FWD bodies have fallen within these guidelines, without ALL being on "the list".... Please use the following if you want to deviate from the Body list for local racing |
I use my europa and another racer used the zoo racing gorilla. I just went by the guide lines and asked the track.
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90% of the tracks use modified Roar rules anyway. Roar never originally outlined rules for brushless classes to begin with let alone body approvals. The way I see USGT is like trying to saddle train a wild horse. They have let so much stuff go that it will be damn near impossible to real it back in. The USGT spec motor is probably the best idea for the class but locally and online ive heard whining of it’s slower than my certified this of I dont want to buy another motor that.....we as racers SUCK. We a decision is made for us we will bitch and complain and then if no decision is made and it’s left to interpretation (sort of like now) we complain of yester year. The top guys locally have been fast with the spec motor and whatever “Roar leagl”🤦🏽♂️ Motor they decide to run. USGT is broken down into so many levels in my area that I’m almost tempted to push for a 6ft and over class.....hell everything else has a class🤣🤣🤣🤣. I just want to have fun in the class and work on driving if the playing field is level because the rules are CLEARLY outlined and followed. If you’re wondering what area I’m referring to it’s Northern California.
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Originally Posted by STLNLST
(Post 15791417)
90% of the tracks us modified Roar rules anyway. Roar never originally outlined rules for brushless classes to begin with let alone body approvals. The way I see USGT is like trying to saddle train a wild horse. They have let so much stuff go that it will be damn near impossible to real it back in. The USGT spec motor is probably the best idea for the class but locally and online ive heard whining of it’s slower than my certified this of I dont want to buy another motor that.....we as racers SUCK. We a decision is made for us we will bitch and complain and then if no decision is made and it’s left to interpretation (sort of like now) we complain of yester year. The top guys locally have been fast with the spec motor and whatever “Roar leagl”🤦🏽♂️ Motor they decide to run. USGT is broken down into so many levels in my area that I’m almost tempted to push for a 6ft and over class.....hell everything else has a class🤣🤣🤣🤣. I just want to have fun in the class and work on driving if the playing field is level because the rules are CLEARLY outlined and followed. If you’re wondering what area I’m referring to it’s Northern California.
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That body would never make it.
The usgt body rules have been changed. After seeing some recent trends, i wanted to let everyone know there won't be much tolerance for stuff like the sherock http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rule...es5-9-2021.pdf |
STLNLST: I'd be down for that 6ft and over class with you :)
to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies? We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule. That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset |
The spec motor will be the same for the foreseeable future, unlike the open motor situation where there is a new hotness every few months.
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Originally Posted by mrreet2001
(Post 15791421)
USGT isn't a ROAR class.
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Originally Posted by JayL
(Post 15791497)
STLNLST: I'd be down for that 6ft and over class with you :)
to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies? We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule. That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset when are you coming out of retirement? F1 has been pretty killer lately. USGT has been a blast as well. |
Originally Posted by robk
(Post 15791437)
That body would never make it.
The usgt body rules have been changed. After seeing some recent trends, i wanted to let everyone know there won't be much tolerance for stuff like the sherock http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rule...es5-9-2021.pdf I sincerely say ThankYou. |
Roar is a joke
Originally Posted by JayL
(Post 15791497)
STLNLST: I'd be down for that 6ft and over class with you :)
to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies? We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule. That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset |
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