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07-22-2017, 09:36 AM
#6362
I was under the impression that USGT bodies were supposed to represent scale versions of real GT race cars? I don't see the issue here. They look like real GT race cars to me....
There's two points to make here:
1: The body alone, will not win the race. Believe it or not, the driver still has to drive the car....which, last time I checked, still matters most.
2: These bodies will not kill the class, but you know what will? Arguing and complaining about every advancement or progress made within the class. I agree, some changes don't really coincide with the "spirit' of the class, but I don't see where a broader spectrum of bodies goes against the spirit of USGT.
If someone is killing the field with one of these bodies, I can almost guarantee it's not just the body. Driver's skill, tuning, etc. still win races.
Just have fun and enjoy this kick-ass class. It's cool racing these realistic bodies. Especially when realistic paint schemes are used.
BTW, also have a new blog post up, for those interested in reading it.
Ironically, this post is all about just having fun. Let me know what you think.
theRACERunderground: Thoughts From a RACER - Have Fun Like a Novice
There's two points to make here:
1: The body alone, will not win the race. Believe it or not, the driver still has to drive the car....which, last time I checked, still matters most.
2: These bodies will not kill the class, but you know what will? Arguing and complaining about every advancement or progress made within the class. I agree, some changes don't really coincide with the "spirit' of the class, but I don't see where a broader spectrum of bodies goes against the spirit of USGT.
If someone is killing the field with one of these bodies, I can almost guarantee it's not just the body. Driver's skill, tuning, etc. still win races.
Just have fun and enjoy this kick-ass class. It's cool racing these realistic bodies. Especially when realistic paint schemes are used.
BTW, also have a new blog post up, for those interested in reading it.
Ironically, this post is all about just having fun. Let me know what you think.
theRACERunderground: Thoughts From a RACER - Have Fun Like a Novice
Last edited by cementsurfer86; 07-22-2017 at 10:15 AM.
07-22-2017, 09:59 AM
#6363
Well said. It's all and always has been the person controlling the remote wins races
People need to stop complaining about motor companies and bodies and whatever else
It's a hobby
It's fun
Win or lose nobody here is getting paid to have fun
People need to stop complaining about motor companies and bodies and whatever else
It's a hobby
It's fun
Win or lose nobody here is getting paid to have fun
07-22-2017, 10:13 AM
#6365
I was under the impression that USGT bodies were supposed to represent scale versions of real GT race cars? I don't see the issue here.
There's two points to make here:
1: The body alone, will not win the race. Believe it or not, the driver still has to drive the car....which, last time I checked, still matters most.
2: These bodies will not kill the class, but you know what will? Arguing and complaining about every advancement or progress made within the class. I agree, some changes don't really coincide with the "spirit' of the class, but I don't see where a broader spectrum of bodies goes against the spirit of USGT.
If someone is killing the field with one of these bodies, I can almost guarantee it's not just the body. Driver's skill, tuning, etc. still win races.
Just have fun and enjoy this kick-ass class. It's cool racing these realistic bodies. Especially when realistic paint schemes are used.
BTW, also have a new blog post up, for those interested in reading it.
Ironically, this post is all about just having fun. Let me know what you think.
theRACERunderground: Thoughts From a RACER - Have Fun Like a Novice
There's two points to make here:
1: The body alone, will not win the race. Believe it or not, the driver still has to drive the car....which, last time I checked, still matters most.
2: These bodies will not kill the class, but you know what will? Arguing and complaining about every advancement or progress made within the class. I agree, some changes don't really coincide with the "spirit' of the class, but I don't see where a broader spectrum of bodies goes against the spirit of USGT.
If someone is killing the field with one of these bodies, I can almost guarantee it's not just the body. Driver's skill, tuning, etc. still win races.
Just have fun and enjoy this kick-ass class. It's cool racing these realistic bodies. Especially when realistic paint schemes are used.
BTW, also have a new blog post up, for those interested in reading it.
Ironically, this post is all about just having fun. Let me know what you think.
theRACERunderground: Thoughts From a RACER - Have Fun Like a Novice
07-22-2017, 03:42 PM
#6366
Man this is why RC racing is dying. The bitching moaning and general whining.
I race real cars also, everything from super dirt late models to a full blown GT3 Nissan GTR.
These are races with money on the line and some real large expenses. There is less bitching and whining in real cars.
This is a hobby, a fun way to spend time but the amount of bitching it produces really takes away from the fun aspect. (And turns some new people off I bet....)
Everyone needs to realize it TOY Cars. Calm down and have fun. Rant over....
I race real cars also, everything from super dirt late models to a full blown GT3 Nissan GTR.
These are races with money on the line and some real large expenses. There is less bitching and whining in real cars.
This is a hobby, a fun way to spend time but the amount of bitching it produces really takes away from the fun aspect. (And turns some new people off I bet....)
Everyone needs to realize it TOY Cars. Calm down and have fun. Rant over....
07-22-2017, 06:29 PM
#6367
It seems to me that sometimes people take the posts on this forum the wrong way. Dale gave his opinion from his point of view, I gave mine, Kevin gave his, lots of racers gave their input, we see a really nice new body from Exotek, and I'm not seeing anybody bent out of shape. We may all disagree with each other, some even take sides. But there's no harm in the discussion we've had. I certainly enjoy discussions about different types of cars much more than motors and tires, but that's just me. I usually learn a lot from these discussions. It's not uncommon to hear a point of view that I never thought of, even if I still may disagree with it. It's all valuable information for Manufacturers and racers as well. I'm still willing to let the people in charge make the final decisions. I can only hope they take my point of view into consideration with the rest.
Gary McAllister
Gary McAllister
07-22-2017, 09:51 PM
#6368
It seems to me that sometimes people take the posts on this forum the wrong way. Dale gave his opinion from his point of view, I gave mine, Kevin gave his, lots of racers gave their input, we see a really nice new body from Exotek, and I'm not seeing anybody bent out of shape. We may all disagree with each other, some even take sides. But there's no harm in the discussion we've had. I certainly enjoy discussions about different types of cars much more than motors and tires, but that's just me. I usually learn a lot from these discussions. It's not uncommon to hear a point of view that I never thought of, even if I still may disagree with it. It's all valuable information for Manufacturers and racers as well. I'm still willing to let the people in charge make the final decisions. I can only hope they take my point of view into consideration with the rest.
Gary McAllister
Gary McAllister
07-22-2017, 11:34 PM
#6369
Man this is why RC racing is dying. The bitching moaning and general whining.
I race real cars also, everything from super dirt late models to a full blown GT3 Nissan GTR.
These are races with money on the line and some real large expenses. There is less bitching and whining in real cars.
This is a hobby, a fun way to spend time but the amount of bitching it produces really takes away from the fun aspect. (And turns some new people off I bet....)
Everyone needs to realize it TOY Cars. Calm down and have fun. Rant over....
I race real cars also, everything from super dirt late models to a full blown GT3 Nissan GTR.
These are races with money on the line and some real large expenses. There is less bitching and whining in real cars.
This is a hobby, a fun way to spend time but the amount of bitching it produces really takes away from the fun aspect. (And turns some new people off I bet....)
Everyone needs to realize it TOY Cars. Calm down and have fun. Rant over....
Why not make the DPi GT body? It says GT so it must be a GT race car right? Im over it and this convoluted class.
07-23-2017, 08:20 AM
#6370
The Exotek P Zero or the Pagani Zonda is a real on road sports as tested on Top Gear
https://youtu.be/zyC3CWDlEzY
The beauty of GT racing is there is a body for everyone's taste and driving style I have been running USGT since the early days of the class I've run the McAlister DP bodies I have every Tamiya GT bodies made OK most. Anyone knows me I have raced or Tested more different GT bodies and it isn't the body in GT that is an advantage it is the car setup,motor or battery. Motor and battery and setup Trump body no matter how slick the body is. Well setup block of a body in the hands of a good racer will beat the slickest bodies made.
There are few tracks in the US that are big enough or fast enough for aerodynamics of a Aerodynamic body to make a difference.
https://youtu.be/zyC3CWDlEzY
The beauty of GT racing is there is a body for everyone's taste and driving style I have been running USGT since the early days of the class I've run the McAlister DP bodies I have every Tamiya GT bodies made OK most. Anyone knows me I have raced or Tested more different GT bodies and it isn't the body in GT that is an advantage it is the car setup,motor or battery. Motor and battery and setup Trump body no matter how slick the body is. Well setup block of a body in the hands of a good racer will beat the slickest bodies made.
There are few tracks in the US that are big enough or fast enough for aerodynamics of a Aerodynamic body to make a difference.
Last edited by vivo quevas; 07-23-2017 at 09:17 AM.
07-23-2017, 12:18 PM
#6371
Yeah its not the motor or battery of the week or the "lets bend the rules just a little" BS thats killing RC right?? You people cant pick rules and adhere to them to save your lives. Yet another class that had simple rules has been ruined by "fudging" to the point where no one really knows the rules any more. I guess just throwing the letters "GT" at the end of the name of a body makes it a GT body.
Why not make the DPi GT body? It says GT so it must be a GT race car right? Im over it and this convoluted class.
Why not make the DPi GT body? It says GT so it must be a GT race car right? Im over it and this convoluted class.
I'm just kidding Nazis hate disco.
I'm sorry, what was the question?
07-23-2017, 01:15 PM
#6372
I think there are a number of posters in this thread that could use a few shots of tequila.
07-23-2017, 06:03 PM
#6373
To turn the tone of the thread back to awesome, positive vibrations, here's some fantastic news: ROAR has now added minimum resistance rules for all spec motors, including our 21.5T wind:
http://roarracing.com/blog/media/200...otor_Rules.pdf
http://roarracing.com/blog/media/200...otor_Rules.pdf
07-23-2017, 06:28 PM
#6374
To turn the tone of the thread back to awesome, positive vibrations, here's some fantastic news: ROAR has now added minimum resistance rules for all spec motors, including our 21.5T wind:
http://roarracing.com/blog/media/200...otor_Rules.pdf
http://roarracing.com/blog/media/200...otor_Rules.pdf
As for the minimum IR ratings for the "spec' winds, I couldn't agree more. Should keep everything more on a level playing field. Let's be honest, things were already starting to get a bit out of hand. This should hopefully change that.
07-23-2017, 06:34 PM
#6375
8.4.7.2.5 ROAR Spec 25.5 motor: The three slotted stator must be wound with 25.5 turns of two
strands of wire with a maximum diameter of .643mm per slot. No motor will be approved with a
resistance less than 101 milliohms between any 2 phases of the motor (AB, AC, BC), when measured at
25C with an Instek GOM 802 milliohm meter. The stator stack length must be a minimum of 19.7mm
and a maximum of 21.0mm. Only 12.3 mm diameter rotors will be permitted in 25.5 Spec motors and
the diameter must measure 12.30 +/-.05 mm. The rotor magnet length must be between a minimum of
25.0mm and a maximum of 26.0mm, not including any balancing material.
8.4.7.2.6 ROAR Spec 21.5 motor: The three slotted stator must be wound with 21.5 turns of two
strands of a maximum diameter of 0.724mm per slot. No motor will be approved with a resistance less
than 55.6 milliohms* between any 2 phases of the motor (AB, AC, BC), when measured at 25C with an
Instek GOM 802 milliohm meter.
8.4.7.2.7 ROAR Spec 17.5 motor: The three slotted stator must be wound with 17.5 turns of 2 strands
of a maximum diameter of .813 mm per slot. No motor will be approved with a resistance less than 35.6
milliohms* between any 2 phases of the motor (AB, AC, BC), when measured at 25C with an Instek GOM
802 milliohm meter.
strands of wire with a maximum diameter of .643mm per slot. No motor will be approved with a
resistance less than 101 milliohms between any 2 phases of the motor (AB, AC, BC), when measured at
25C with an Instek GOM 802 milliohm meter. The stator stack length must be a minimum of 19.7mm
and a maximum of 21.0mm. Only 12.3 mm diameter rotors will be permitted in 25.5 Spec motors and
the diameter must measure 12.30 +/-.05 mm. The rotor magnet length must be between a minimum of
25.0mm and a maximum of 26.0mm, not including any balancing material.
8.4.7.2.6 ROAR Spec 21.5 motor: The three slotted stator must be wound with 21.5 turns of two
strands of a maximum diameter of 0.724mm per slot. No motor will be approved with a resistance less
than 55.6 milliohms* between any 2 phases of the motor (AB, AC, BC), when measured at 25C with an
Instek GOM 802 milliohm meter.
8.4.7.2.7 ROAR Spec 17.5 motor: The three slotted stator must be wound with 17.5 turns of 2 strands
of a maximum diameter of .813 mm per slot. No motor will be approved with a resistance less than 35.6
milliohms* between any 2 phases of the motor (AB, AC, BC), when measured at 25C with an Instek GOM
802 milliohm meter.