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Old 10-24-2013 | 03:12 PM
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Who makes that Scion body? Looks great!
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Old 10-24-2013 | 03:12 PM
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MikeR do you know what kind of wheels these are? Pretty sweet
In for wheel source... Those FR-S cars do look awesome, but a Lightning McQueen Scion?

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Who makes that Scion body? Looks great!
I believe it was stated that they're HPI 200 mm bodies. Lemme put my orange/black/blue striped scheme on one and then you can say "Looks GRRRRRREAT!"
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Old 10-24-2013 | 03:18 PM
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Who makes that Scion body? Looks great!
Tamiya has several of those scheme for 86....
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Old 10-24-2013 | 03:30 PM
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I know that the Scion Challenge Series in So Cal all used the same body, and they were available at the tracks / shops that hosted the series. (TQRCRACING.COM) was one.

I believe they were all HPI Scion FRS bodies -

http://www.hpiracing.com/en/part/108064

I really wanted to run in the series, but do mine up in the Subaru BRZ colors
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Old 10-24-2013 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by robk


MikeR do you know what kind of wheels these are? Pretty sweet
Agreed but I wish I knew- a drift company maybe?

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Thats great info Mike, and it settles the small reservations that I had about it the new rule. I wasn't crazy about it, but I was onboard. I still am. Now if you don't mind. Get to work on the carbon fiber conversion for the SD Yokomo that has just been rereleased.
Maybe if it was an F1 car
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Old 10-24-2013 | 05:38 PM
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If they haven't already done so, I would get them in contact with Gravity RC, [email protected]
..and they are sold out! where to buy now?
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Old 10-24-2013 | 06:01 PM
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..and they are sold out! where to buy now?
http://racevta.com/product_info.php?products_id=33
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Old 10-24-2013 | 06:22 PM
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MikeR do you know what kind of wheels these are? Pretty sweet
MST maybe?
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Old 10-24-2013 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by robk


MikeR do you know what kind of wheels these are? Pretty sweet
HPI #107140 - FIVE:AD S5:F WHEEL 26mm GUNMETAL (6mm OFFSET/2pcs)

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Old 10-24-2013 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bucknuts
..and they are sold out! where to buy now?
You may want to talk to mr ercwhsd..
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Old 10-24-2013 | 09:26 PM
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I understand the next batch of tires has been put on order already. I suppose that indicates a positive response to the new tires
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Old 10-25-2013 | 05:07 AM
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I understand the next batch of tires has been put on order already. I suppose that indicates a positive response to the new tires
My order arrived in only 2 days shipped to ATX, very fast shipping... Thanks Paul

I also love the decals that come with the wheels and tires to help you remember car setups, very cool

Only question I have is the included foams appear to be closed cell, are you guys slicing them with a hobby knife before inserting and then re-gluing to make it easier to balance the wheel? Or did the rule change to allow for closed cell foams too?

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Old 10-25-2013 | 05:27 AM
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My order arrived in only 2 days shipped to ATX, very fast shipping... Thanks Paul

I also love the decals that come with the wheels and tires to help you remember car setups, very cool

Only question I have is the included foams appear to be closed cell, are you guys slicing them with a hobby knife before inserting and then re-gluing to make it easier to balance the wheel? Or did the rule change to allow for closed cell foams too?

They are very low profile open cell inserts. I just put them on normal without any modification and glued them up.
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Old 10-25-2013 | 06:37 AM
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They are very low profile open cell inserts. I just put them on normal without any modification and glued them up.
I must admit, I thought that the difference between open cell vs closed cell was simply whether the insert had a cut slit. Many of the HPI foams were just a flat piece of foam that I would have to patch together with some contact cement in order to "close" the foam up, hence why I thought that is what made their foams "open cell".

I found this link here which explains the difference between open and closed cell foams, and frankly it's nearly impossible to tell the difference to an untrained eye:

http://www.foam-tech.com/products/ur...losed_cell.htm


How is an entry level racer going to figure out what to select when manufacturers don't specify, for example these foams here are billed specifically for asphalt racing:

http://www.sweepracingusa.com/110-TC...et_p_207.html#



then these foams here are billed for carpet racing:

http://www.sweepracingusa.com/110-TC...set_p_412.html




Now I can't tell the difference whether it's open or closed cell (they don't say anywhere in the product details that I can see), but it would make more sense to me to use the appropriate foam for the intended application by the manufacturer to get the best possible wear and performance out of the tire. Both from an economical and performance point of view.

I've been running the first set of foams in my 24mm RIDE tires on an asphalt track for a few race days and my car has hooked up like it's on rails with nearly no signs of tire wear. Nothing close to what I was seeing with the HPI tires.

It will be interesting to test and see both in performance and wear with the new spec tire/foam combo and contrast them with what I've been using lately.
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Old 10-25-2013 | 07:47 AM
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Bill, you can definitely see and feel a difference between open cell foam and closed cell. Open cell is what you typically find used for egg crate foam, or room sound deadening material. Closed cell feels more like foam rubber or rubber matting.

Both of the Sweep foams you've shown above are closed cell. They're just different durometers for different applications.
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