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Old 09-11-2010, 11:05 PM
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Hello Fellas,

I Just wanted to post that I have a YokomoR12 Available if anyone is interested.

Had a chance to run the car this pas few days ............. the R12 is practictly new, feel free to pm if any of you are interested.

Thank You All Again !!!

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Old 09-12-2010, 06:16 AM
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I found a setup I manage to translate in English in some way. However, there is still some information I can get such as front swaybar, front & side springs.

So I looking for someone with some more knowledge in Japanese that can give a hand for those details. Anyone?
Here is the setup sheet.
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>Aron0

this is yokomo 12th driver Masayuki Murai (second place last year JMRCA nationals)

August 28th
Indoor paved track (temperature 35C humidity 47%)


Front

Camber angle 3 degree
Caster angle 3.2 degree
Toe angle -1 degree
Skid angle (F-down R-middle)

Suspension Brock optional 0.5mm including kit (standard 0mm)
Spacer under sus brock 1.0mm

Shock oil yokomo #600
Front spring standard (side by side)

Ride height 4.0mm



Center

Shock length 65mm
Spring yokomo black (optional soft)
Shock oil #400
Shock position (F-middle R-standard)

Roll spring black (optional soft)
Roll spring position (inside, this is not standard)
Roll shock oil yokomo #300


Rear

Rear tread width 168mm
Ride height 4.0mm
Ride height spacer 1.25mm down


Tire F yokomo L-rubber medium 43.5mm(additive 2/3, 10minutes)
Tire R yokomo L-rubber medium hard 44mm(additive full, 10 minutes)
Wheel R & F standard


Electric

Motor nosram 4.5T (timing insert : -10)
Spur/pinion kimbrough 88T / yokomo 22T
ESC nosuram V2 (setting 0-3-5-2)
Servo JR 3650
Body zytec or AMR (posting position Font-hole:1 Rear-hole:3)
Transmitter KO herios


these pic are last 11th September






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Old 09-13-2010, 07:09 PM
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Thanks for your help Landau-san, that is highly appreciated.
Clear and full pdf available
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if anyone is interested i have spoken with john at bsr tires, and he is willing to put foam on the yokomo rims. email him and send him your rims with what foam you want.
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Having problems with toe in..

Turn the steering completely to the right or left pushing up the front arms the wheel no matter what I do always has toe in..

This seems to be something which appears with the lower arm are attached to the front shocks is there something which I am missing???
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Second Question..

Anyone worked out what effect the droop has on the car??

It would seem droop + front shock + lower arm + anti roll bars all effect each other..

Anyone able to shed ligt on the effects of each...
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Me_MrTyson
Second Question..

Anyone worked out what effect the droop has on the car??

It would seem droop + front shock + lower arm + anti roll bars all effect each other..

Anyone able to shed ligt on the effects of each...
Hi m8, on the first question, no idea what you mean. I tried doing the same as you but as far as I see the toe angle keeps toe- out when steering and compressing the suspension.
But I hardly think you will steer that much, if you are you need a lot more steering in your car, I usually have a steering circle of about 1.2m.

2nd question:
I almost have 0 droop on the yokomo front (and thats the way I like it), I suspect the droop on this front end will do the same as droop on the other front ends.
The more droop you have the more steering you loose when accelerating because the suspension can lift more.

Anyway, I'll be trying out the car for the first time today. I've glued up a whole lot of tires a few days ago and I hope to find a working combo.
I'm putting my hopes on the soft rears (seems to be magenta-like) and the medium fronts (also in the magenta-purple range).
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Me_MrTyson
Having problems with toe in..

Turn the steering completely to the right or left pushing up the front arms the wheel no matter what I do always has toe in..

This seems to be something which appears with the lower arm are attached to the front shocks is there something which I am missing???
Are you describing bump-in. Basically when the car is at rest and you are looking at it from above the tires are straight, then you compress the front end downward and the tires then toe-in?

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R12 must be the best 12th on the market..

finally got time to test

running

800 - front shock
500 - center shock
350 - center side shock

Gold center spring

no springs on the front shock, and silver front arm spring (kit)

Tire super grip rear hard front all Yokomo, Glue them yourself makes for such a better tire.

Car has so much front steering had to dial it out a little...

Overall very impressed the front real makes this car...
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Finally managed to do some testing.
First tires:
Tire rear soft seems to be pink-like
Super grip rear tire is grey/white-ish.
L-rubber front medium is magenta-ish.

Combo what worked well for me was Tire rear soft and the front mediums.
Super grip rear with the front mediums made the car have too much steering.

To gain steering throughout the turn, I dumped the stabiliser and the car worked very well. Rest is std kit.
I did however manage to loose one of the bottom podplate screws and the other 3 were loose.
Center shock is leaking, I was advised to use green slime on the O-rings to counter this.
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R12 shock leaks oil.

1.shock O-ring is slight small,
2. shock inner spacer hole is slight large,

solution.
1, I use tamiya air remover and shock oil.



Soak O-rings with shock oil in remover, and pump.
This dilate O-ring.

2, make a small hole with grue and drill (1.8mm) two spacer/1 shock.
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Originally Posted by Me_MrTyson
R12 must be the best 12th on the market..

finally got time to test

running

800 - front shock
500 - center shock
350 - center side shock

Gold center spring

no springs on the front shock, and silver front arm spring (kit)

Tire super grip rear hard front all Yokomo, Glue them yourself makes for such a better tire.

Car has so much front steering had to dial it out a little...

Overall very impressed the front real makes this car...
Is this on ashphalt or carpet?

Thanks,
Kane
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Originally Posted by Kane-o
Is this on ashphalt or carpet?

Thanks,
Kane

We run indoor, ashphalt using VHT as goop so high traction.
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Originally Posted by landau
R12 shock leaks oil.

1.shock O-ring is slight small,
2. shock inner spacer hole is slight large,

solution.
1, I use tamiya air remover and shock oil.



Soak O-rings with shock oil in remover, and pump.
This dilate O-ring.

2, make a small hole with grue and drill (1.8mm) two spacer/1 shock.
I just use rc12r5 shocks instead! no leaks and its blue!lol
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