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Pulse_ 02-19-2014 07:17 AM

hi,

in your opinion is a set up station worth it in 1/10 and 1/12 pan car? It would be an investment for two racers

RedBullFiXX 02-19-2014 07:19 AM

Andrew S

Springs, Wings, Bodies, tweak, etc.. amount to about 10% of 12th scale tuning
Tires, tire prep make up the other 90%

If your car is loose, you have selected the wrong tires for your track

Some tracks don't play well with Pink family rear tires
Try Pink X2 or Lilac Front with Grey rears

dr_hfuhuhurr 02-19-2014 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Pulse_ (Post 13022962)
hi,

in your opinion is a set up station worth it in 1/10 and 1/12 pan car? It would be an investment for two racers

I picked up the Kyosho 12th scale setup station and can honestly say it is one of the best tools I have ever used.

It is so nice to be able to accurately setup toe, camber, steering throw, etc with this thing.

Pulse_ 02-19-2014 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by dr_hfuhuhurr (Post 13023014)
I picked up the Kyosho 12th scale setup station and can honestly say it is one of the best tools I have ever used.

It is so nice to be able to accurately setup toe, camber, steering throw, etc with this thing.

any reason why you chose the kyosho rather than the hudy?

dr_hfuhuhurr 02-19-2014 08:36 AM

Never used the Hudy...

Andrew S 02-19-2014 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX (Post 13022970)
Andrew S

Springs, Wings, Bodies, tweak, etc.. amount to about 10% of 12th scale tuning
Tires, tire prep make up the other 90%

If your car is loose, you have selected the wrong tires for your track

Some tracks don't play well with Pink family rear tires
Try Pink X2 or Lilac Front with Grey rears

Thanks man, I've got some other tyres coming to try.

I've got most of the trinity compound, zip grip II, red dot, orange dot, purple dot.

Like the red dot best, but takes the longest to prep.
Tried paragon and thought all the trinity were better.
Also got some tyre tweak on the way.
Just got to find a way to make it last longer!
I tried hooping overnight and it lasted maybe 2 mins more, but I'm still a long way off 8 mins.
When I get back from a heat, I'm always surprised how much tyre wear I have. A thick layer of foam on car and body.
Indoor ash felt track, perhaps it's wearing though the treated tyre to quick.
Might be time to try hard rears and see how they hang on!

RedBullFiXX 02-19-2014 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Andrew S (Post 13023581)
Thanks man, I've got some other tyres coming to try.

I've got most of the trinity compound, zip grip II, red dot, orange dot, purple dot.

Like the red dot best, but takes the longest to prep.
Tried paragon and thought all the trinity were better.
Also got some tyre tweak on the way.
Just got to find a way to make it last longer!
I tried hooping overnight and it lasted maybe 2 mins more, but I'm still a long way off 8 mins.
When I get back from a heat, I'm always surprised how much tyre wear I have. A thick layer of foam on car and body.
Indoor ash felt track, perhaps it's wearing though the treated tyre to quick.
Might be time to try hard rears and see how they hang on!

Rear grip loss during a run is more due to front tires picking up more grip than rears, not necessarily from tire prep

Andrew S 02-19-2014 12:13 PM

Would that be because I've been using double pink fronts and they are losing less foam as they are harder?

RedBullFiXX 02-19-2014 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew S (Post 13023859)
Would that be because I've been using double pink fronts and they are losing less foam as they are harder?

Probably because the fronts are heating up more than the rears, which are just sliding around, with very little grip

Synthetic foams, like Grey, or Yellow work different, and are often overlooked for asphalt racing, but if the track has a very smooth surface, they can be the ticket

Andrew S 02-19-2014 01:55 PM

thanks man!

RedBullFiXX 02-19-2014 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Andrew S (Post 13024191)
thanks man!

np
Let us know how it goes

aceracer1 02-19-2014 02:43 PM

Hi Guys,

does anyone know if there are any other make of side links eg. kyosho vbc ect that are the same length as the Xray ones and that would fit onto the xray car?

cheers,

Aceracer1

Andrew S 02-19-2014 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by RedBullFiXX (Post 13024318)
np
Let us know how it goes

Will do.

Would love to get some vid as well so you could see exactly what im talking about!

For 4 mins my whole car is just so planted and drives so good with perfect blend off smooth and aggressiveness. Does not traction roll or slide anywhere, can handle the fast sweepers and the slow corners beautiful!
Laps times are awesome.

Then the front still stays the same and the rear still grips the corners the same at speed etc, but when coming back on the power, you can see the rear wheels fight for traction with the outside tire biting and oversteering the car.
At this point I have to straighten the car before I can power on.

halfway of an 8 min race is not close enough!

Bikerbob 02-19-2014 03:50 PM

Hi all, looking for 2 things.. kind of old school for my BMI 12rr

1 - I dont have lots of gear left to run my 1/12 so I wanted to put a brushed motor and a Novak C2 esc in it.. run it off a 1 cell lipo with a turnigy voltage booster.. I know this will run the receiver and the servo.. will the esc work?

2 - I need a body with as much room for gear as possible. I find most current bodies I cant get a clear path to the motor for the wires.. and have to be very creative to keep everything running along the center of the car because the rest of the body is sitting on the receiver esc etc..

thanks

James

ZEe_NYC 02-19-2014 04:17 PM

Just picked up a BMI DB12R with a crc front end on it. Wired it up and ready to go. Looking fwd to spending some time in this forum to ask a bunch of questions (new to 1/12, but not to any kind of racing).

17.5, Tekin RS with TQ booster, spektrum sr300 and a micro KO ICS servo. Just wired it up with 16awg wires and charging the 1cell reedy =)


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