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Crashby 04-09-2008 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by bs6ef (Post 4339492)
Hi James

I'm a UK racer and have found that the most popular type of cars are the T-Bar style, these cars include in no particular order;

Corally SP12X (i drive this)
Cyclone C12
Associated rc12l4 (the new associated is a link car)
CRC T-Force

The Link cars are

CRC GenX
Associated rc12r5 (not yet released)
BMI.

Guys please correct me if i am wrong but T-Bar car work best on low grip carpet tracks.

If you phone Wim from Action Model Centre on 01803 211007 he specializes in 12th scale and has every part for every car you could ever want.

If you are quite new to racing i would probably stay clear of the Corally SP12X as it seems to be quite a fragile car in comparison to the C12 and RC12L4. My opinion is go to your local track and have a chat to the guys there and see which cars they run then i would go for the same, as they will be able to help you out on setup etc.

hope this helps

steve

The new Associated RC12R5 gives you the option of running links or T bar. I also heard that it uses all metric fasteners except for the rear axle and hubs.

InspGadgt 04-09-2008 03:55 PM

The t-bar option is not standard with the kit though and has to be purchased seperately. It is likely the front axles are standard as well or they will have a hard time with bearings for the industry standard front wheels.

tdu verney 04-09-2008 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Jamesalex (Post 4339149)
I am looking to going into 1/12th scale racing inn the uk and was wondering what is the best path to take when it comes to cars I have been looking at the cyclone 12 and new associated pro and cones of each or any other goods cars around?

Cheers
#
James


BMI for the car, support and service.

boscoj 04-09-2008 07:33 PM

I've also been looking for those wheel/hub plates . . .
 
I've also been looking for those wheel/hub plates . . . someone said they were once made by Trinity.

The little plates that fit between the bolt head and the wheel center on the rear axle of the Parma wheels . . .

Anyone make these still . . ?

odpurple 04-09-2008 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by boscoj (Post 4341471)
I've also been looking for those wheel/hub plates . . . someone said they were once made by Trinity.

The little plates that fit between the bolt head and the wheel center on the rear axle of the Parma wheels . . .

Anyone make these still . . ?

Trinity was the only source for those that I know of. I ordered some of them a while back but the website has changed again and now I can't find them. I am planning on producing them as an OD Racing Product. I'll post up here when that happens. If you see me at All Speed remind me and I'll cut loose a set of the Trinity ones for you :cool:

boscoj 04-09-2008 10:05 PM

Ahh, so this is you . . . Layman said they were OD pieces but some others thought Trinity. Sorry I missed you on Tuesday.

Jeff


Originally Posted by odpurple (Post 4341796)
Trinity was the only source for those that I know of. I ordered some of them a while back but the website has changed again and now I can't find them. I am planning on producing them as an OD Racing Product. I'll post up here when that happens. If you see me at All Speed remind me and I'll cut loose a set of the Trinity ones for you :cool:


odpurple 04-09-2008 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by boscoj (Post 4341931)
Ahh, so this is you . . . Layman said they were OD pieces but some others thought Trinity. Sorry I missed you on Tuesday.

Jeff

All you missed was me slamming the boards :lol: I loaned Jonathan a car and he won the race. Layman was fast with his OD12 but missed his set up for the main although he was super fast all night. See you next time :cool:

I'll save those wheel washers for you.

potloodslijper 04-11-2008 01:12 AM

Hi,

I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?

adam lancia 04-11-2008 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by potloodslijper (Post 4345441)
Hi,

I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?

Check with the local fast guys at the track you'll be running at and see what they're running then buy those. Easiest and cheapest way to do it. That way you don't end up buying one of everything and have a bunch of not-so-useful tires taking up space and money in your pitbox.

boscoj 04-11-2008 06:14 PM

enthusiastic noob reply,

On our short tight medium grip local track guys are running Parma pxxx(edit-purple) fronts and white/grey rears. But they're also shaving/truing the crap out of them. Jack the Gripper is the sauce of choice.

I haven't broken very much in my 1st month of 12th scale (RC12L4) except bodies, a lower control arm, an .063 t-bar and a servo saver.

I have noticed the Associated front springs start to sag after a couple of weeks so I have a bunch of those.

Ballcups for the tie rods seem to enlarge after many hard slams into the wall as do the pivot balls. Not sure if it's pivot balls or control arms, probably a bit of both. Also the bearings supplied with the RC12L4 kit are pretty bad. A "guy" at the track recommended the ceramics from rc4less.com and they are miles better and resonably priced.

I don't know what the Hot Bodies kit comes with but I got the Ti fr axles and screw kit from Lunsford.

I'm now monitoring my diff rings and balls. I was thinking I would break them in with some moly assembly lube from Red Line, get some nice smooth grooves worn in the rings. Seems to be working well but I'm sure many will pooh pooh this idea. That being said the belville washer on the thrust cone seems to be losing some of it's spring making it difficult to adjust.

The stock shock seems to be a weak point so I got the body/cap upgrade from CRC, seems to work very well. Also plenty of CRC front end shims are a must for the noob without the budget for a tire truer/budget to blast new tires within mm's of their usable life.

That's about it for me really, except for a bad rx from my old 2PL, perfect upgrade opportunity . . .




Originally Posted by potloodslijper (Post 4345441)
Hi,

I'm going to order a Hot Bodies C12 this week, with some spares, servo, packs,... but which spares are important? I know the front wheel shafts and T-bars are must haves for this car.
But my main question is: which tires (Jaco) are best for modified racing on indoor medium bite carpet? For 19T racing, Purple-Grey is good, some people also said yellow is very good for the rear. Or has anyone a sort of document about 12th scale tires?


odpurple 04-11-2008 09:44 PM

Jeff-
I don't think you saw any Parma Pink fronts, they don't make them. I used Magenta fronts last race and they were almost too much but manageable. Grey/Purple works well with over 1/2 sauce on the fronts :cool: I know everyone is pretty hot on the Jacos right now (they are great tires), but with the new compounds from Parma, and the straightest and lightest wheels available, the Parmas are hard to beat!

boscoj 04-11-2008 11:07 PM

oops, you're right, I meant to say purple . . . I also noticed the Parma rims seem to be more flexible than the CRC's, they crack less, take it from me . . . :(


Originally Posted by odpurple (Post 4347904)
Jeff-
I don't think you saw any Parma Pink fronts, they don't make them. I used Magenta fronts last race and they were almost too much but manageable. Grey/Purple works well with over 1/2 sauce on the fronts :cool: I know everyone is pretty hot on the Jacos right now (they are great tires), but with the new compounds from Parma, and the straightest and lightest wheels available, the Parmas are hard to beat!


Ferrarimk13 04-12-2008 06:19 AM

hey there boscoj, you said youre using the futaba 2PL, but it has a large reciever? you can get a supre small futaba one, thats for the 2PL, and i like it because its smaller than most recievers out there, besides the micro spektrum one.

boscoj 04-12-2008 08:24 AM

Thanks man but I already bit the bullet and got a new radio . . .


Originally Posted by Ferrarimk13 (Post 4348463)
hey there boscoj, you said youre using the futaba 2PL, but it has a large reciever? you can get a supre small futaba one, thats for the 2PL, and i like it because its smaller than most recievers out there, besides the micro spektrum one.


Ferrarimk13 04-12-2008 04:28 PM

cool, thats what i plan to do as well, eventually.


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