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Old 07-24-2007 | 10:15 AM
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Case closed.

Now--what do I need to do/know to prepare for my first ever race on asphalt? 19T, big track. Do you run ride height a bit higher as the surface isn't carpet smooth, or...?

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Old 07-24-2007 | 10:33 AM
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Case closed.

Now--what do I need to do/know to prepare for my first ever race on asphalt? 19T, big track. Do you run ride height a bit higher as the surface isn't carpet smooth, or...?

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It's nice to hear that you are going outdoors A little sun will do you some good and maybe you can get the smell of Paragon out of your clothes

I set the ride height for asphalt so the car doesn't bottom out to much, usually no lower than 4mm. We usually run Pink rears and Magenta fronts, if the bite is low then Purple fronts. I don't have a clue what to suggest for setup for the Darkside car, but basically soften up the rear end. Have fun and don't forget the sunscreen
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Old 07-24-2007 | 10:42 AM
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Also one other tip: use tires that haven't been run on carpet yet. Or at least clean 'em thouroughly with diswash soap.
In my experience you'll be searching for traction if you don't.
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Old 07-24-2007 | 10:44 AM
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Race is the Sizzler in Seattle/Tacoma so I'll bring my umbrella and galoshes

Saving the sunscreen for here...heading into yet another triple-digit temp day. I was outside all weekend in 100+ doing race director and announcing duties for the Montana State Offroad Champs. Ay yi yi...fat guys from Seattle STILL ain't used to this heat. Or the sub-zero in winter.

Thanks for the pointers. I'll set up both the Darkside and one of the 3.2R's. What I should PROBABLY do is put the YRX back together so I have a T-bar car...but I hate T-bars

Oh yeah, we don't use Paragon here...scent-free for 2 years now. What will I want to use on asphalt?
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Old 07-24-2007 | 10:45 AM
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Alright, this seems silly to me... generally yoou need more steering on asphault right? So why go to a harder front tire (purple vs. magenta), or is this change made do to the grip/ heat characteristics of purples?

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Old 07-24-2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro ten Holland
Also one other tip: use tires that haven't been run on carpet yet. Or at least clean 'em thouroughly with diswash soap.
In my experience you'll be searching for traction if you don't.
Hey...that's good to know! Thanks.

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Alright, this seems silly to me... generally yoou need more steering on asphault right? So why go to a harder front tire (purple vs. magenta), or is this change made do to the grip/ heat characteristics of purples?
If I was going to guess, I'd say that if grip is low and you're losing the rear end that if you go a little firmer on the front tires you'll be tightening the car up a bit and making it more driveable.
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Old 07-24-2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottrik
Oh yeah, we don't use Paragon here...scent-free for 2 years now. What will I want to use on asphalt?
Here's my asphalt ritual:

Paragon soak for 15 mins. don't wipe it off, then apply Coppertone SPF50 sunscreen, let it soak for another 15 mins. Wipe off thoroughly, then enjoy the grip.......
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Old 07-24-2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CypressMidWest
Here's my asphalt ritual:

Paragon soak for 15 mins. don't wipe it off, then apply Coppertone SPF50 sunscreen, let it soak for another 15 mins. Wipe off thoroughly, then enjoy the grip.......
I still dont get why sunscreen works..... Any reason/theory behind it?
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Old 07-24-2007 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ttso
I still dont get why sunscreen works..... Any reason/theory behind it?

sunscreen will keep the pargon in the tire longer. as the pargon sits on the tire two things are going on, one it socking into the tire and two it evapaing into the air. By putting sunscreen on top of the last bit of pargon its letting the rest of it go into the tires and not into the air which will give you longer traction outdoors. just make sure to get aloe free sunscreen.


coppertone 15 or 45 the old stuff works best as it has no added aloe,or bug stuff in it

hope this helps
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Old 07-24-2007 | 11:55 AM
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[...If I was going to guess, I'd say that if grip is low and you're losing the rear end that if you go a little firmer on the front tires you'll be tightening the car up a bit and making it more driveable.[/QUOTE]

Good guess. On a low bite track too much front traction makes the car feel loose
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Old 07-24-2007 | 11:58 AM
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im not so good in english

Paragon is a tire soap, right ?
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Old 07-24-2007 | 12:03 PM
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Scott I've been running my Darkside Mx2 on asphalt with pink or magenta rears with purple fronts. I use the same tire treatment proceedure as Cypress treating the full rear and the inside half of the front tires.
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Old 07-24-2007 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ff01
im not so good in english

Paragon is a tire soap, right ?
Yep. "sauce, traction additive"

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Old 07-24-2007 | 12:22 PM
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Thanks !

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Old 07-24-2007 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottrik
Race is the Sizzler in Seattle/Tacoma so I'll bring my umbrella and galoshes

Thanks for the pointers. I'll set up both the Darkside and one of the 3.2R's. What I should PROBABLY do is put the YRX back together so I have a T-bar car...but I hate T-bars

Oh yeah, we don't use Paragon here...scent-free for 2 years now. What will I want to use on asphalt?

use Pargon fx I beleave its the the sent-free one pargon makes and do the sunscreen treatment as is above posts.

if you cant get sent free pargon try tq8 orange and do the same treament.

?? you can't use Pargon outside, do to the sent??? I seen tracks do that for indoor but outside??????
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