Corally sp12
 

Hey guys,

I will possibly be getting an sp12g3 in a trade and was wondering if any of you have some setups for the car for assphalt and carpet? Also, do you have to purchase Corally wheels for the car or will the Jaco and Trc's work fine? I noticed that the TRC's are about 5 bucks cheaper a pair than the Jaco's, do they lack in performance or are they as good? Also the Corally Silvers and Golds seem to be the cheapest, how do they work.?Thanks, Blake.

thats a very good point kevin. besides i dont really trust a manufacturer that has a monopoly on just about everything r/c that wants to run for president. i feel that will not be good for the sport. I would like to have the same deal as europe has where you know what batts will be legal for the year so theres no guessing.

Corally have to use their own wheels, so the only way to run Jaco or TRC would be to glue them yourself and buy the wheels separately.

KevinK: I understand. Ernie did not make it. Rick Wilson has the vote, on the ROAR site :). Do not trust them. GP is actually a powers cell I was told. Not sure on the size thing. Some oval racers have them here, I will see what we have. Cells came from promatch. Are the new sanyo 3300 legal size?

Powers are a GP cell! :nod: :nod: :nod:

Hey everyone, just got back up to speed here with my recent move things have been really hectic.

Fiddle Faddle- The trinity 02 will have a narrower rear track than the maximum legal width unless you use an extra shim or two. I don't have my car with me just now but i will look at it and get back to you on just what shims i am using. I know that on the left side hub there is a small flange on on side of it and a longer flange on the other side. What you want to do is use the longer flange side toward the bearing/pod plate and let the smaller size flange be on the inside of the left wheel. If i remember correctly i have two spacers on the left side of the car and two spacers on the right side of the car (but i think they total a little less lenght than the left side ones). I'll let you know the exact dimensions.

Kev- Looking forward to Sat. at Venture and Sunday at Trackside doing the 12th scale mod. Regarding the batteries issue i'm not sure. Capacity to some degree seems influenced by size but if we are talking about 43.3 mm vs. 43mm being the rule as an example then it seems a little mute because the capacity shouldn't be coming from something that small. All it would take to make them "legal" in that example would be what many racers already do when they assemble their cells which is to dremel the pos/neg sides. Now if we are talking about 48mm vs the leagal 43mm then maybe there is something to it, and who is to say/define what "production tolerance variation" is/will be, i don't know.


i do remember that they did increase the rule on length when the 3000's first came out and if i'm not mistaken i remember that some voiced the same concern about rule infraction on length then. My main concern is to have a durable cell that keeps its performance over 30+ cycles (the more the better) and to lower the cost for buying batteries. The USTC did discuss a battery freeze every two years but voted against it when everything was looked at. It's hard to say because i'm not sure anyone really has the hard data to know what racers want and why and a fifty or so informal comments over various boards doesn't statistically count vs. the thousands of racers. One aspect that i haven't heard talked about is the "boomerang effect" as i call it regarding technology freezes. If we freeze batteries every two years then during that brief summer period for battery review who is going to pick what to use for the upcoming indoor season or in the midst of the outdoor season? Who is to say that the battery manufactuers are going to make anything to our specs? If batteries are increasing in capacity in spite of RC than we will have to ammend rules every "x" amount of time anyway. Who is going to test the durability of these cells during these intervals? Who is going to get the importing rights and who will enforce price rules and how will they be ammended especially since we will be making rather large jumps in performance (and battery manufactuer pricing i suspect) all in a narrow time window for the next "x" amount of time? It just seems to me to be a lot more complicated than it gets presented and even then who is to say that the racer will be happier? Who knows? I sure don't.

Also, one other little detail, Trinity only had an exclusive deal with Panasonic, not Sanyo or Gold Peak(the producers of the new 3300mah cells). Form my perspective, as long as the cells will last, then we should use 'em. The only reason why i bought any this fall is because the SMH's I bought last year had deteriorated too much, lost too much capacity(to being little if any better than a 2400mah NiCd cell) & I knew the Sanyo HV's were holding up better, & I heard that the testing on the new GP cells were looking great. I know a lot of guys think that we HAVE to buy the newest cell just because it's out there, but as long as your packs are in good shape, it really isn't neccessary. And many of us hardly ever even run on tracks that follow ROAR rules that closely, so as long as it works, we'll use it. PLus, as a few have already mentioned, the packs of GP3300's I got for my 1/12 scale fit in my 12L3 perfectly, I did not need to do any grinding on the battery slots(& that's with the extra shrink wrap that ProMatch sent with the GP3300's, I normally don't use it). From the runs I've done with them so far, they hardly even get warm in charging or discharging, & they seem an excellent balance of good voltage & great internal resistance, plus they're cheaper than ANY of the others, so what's the big deal? You put those things together & that's usually considered a GOOD thing for us, great performance & long life for a killer price, what more do you want?

Grizzbob....If you are in the states and you want to get GP cells guess who you have to buy them from???? Trinity thats who....E has the rights to be the exclusive distributor of the GP cells. Now you can buy Powers cells from over seas from the likes of Yokomo and others...Reedy will use the cells from Yokomo Im sure so they dont put money into E's pocket everyone else in Europe will more then likely get Powers cells which they are all the same cell....but if your a state side battery matcher you are going to get your GP's from Trinity unless you buy from over seas.

Anyway this is my last post on this subject if the battery gets aproved then fine if not what ever.

Hey all....The indoor season in the south is heating up(finally)we had the Louisiana state race last weekend.....My Knife is running pretty good(slight push on turn in)....qualified 2nd. in 1/12 stock out of 15, and finished 3rd.

I dont see what the big deal with the GP cells are. And I cant see why any racer who values thier money wouldnt like em. You can buy those GP cells cheaper than any 3000's or 2400's. But they work as good or better than the Sanyo 3300's that are going for over $100 a pack. If you have to change the rule to allow the extra .3 mm, then I think that is a small price to pay, for all the benefits the GP cells have to offer.

Yeah, and remember at the end of the day R/C is supposed to be fun and it's only a hobby!!! These cells are just simply good for the consumers, more bang for our bucks!!

legal cells
 

I recently started up in 12th scale and as everyone knows I dumped some serious cash. I went to my local hobby shop and spent $280 dollars on gold peak 3300s. I find it hard to believe that a product that you can buy(very reasonably)over the counter from a known manufacturer would turn out to be unusable at ROAR events. I guess I could have waited but I had no other cells to use while the issue was solved. No sour grapes though, club racing is enough of a challenge. for now.

Rosecity,
You'll find that from year to year this happens all the time. I'm sure they will make those cells legal soon. I'm buying them as well as are most people so I wouldn't worry about it.

12th Electronics
 

Hey Guys,
I am getting a 12th scale within the next month and was getting ready to order the electronics for it. What specs should I look at in shopping for a servo. How fast? How much Torque? Mini? Any help appreciated.

James, I have the airtronics 94145 and like it. I really don't know what the specs are but it works great.