i havent tried it myself but a buddy of mine says that zip grip is the best you can buy, but hes sponsored by schumacher so he may just be tryna get me to buy schumacher stuff :nod:and i have a question of my own where can i buy a corally 12th scale ive looked on their site and they dont have price listings :confused:

Zip Grip is Trinity's verison of Paragon Ground Effects. It works well.

FYI, Schumacher does not sell Zip Grip :)

You can buy the one I have for sale :) Or you can buy one from Stormer Hobbies.

Zip grip is not to bad on carpet either. Our club had to go to this stuff a few years ago as our carpet track was in a public mall and we had to keep odours down. When we moved the club wanted to keep clear of paragon as many racers complained about its strong odour. We recently switched over to JACK THE GRIPPER as our only club legal juice...

When we ran nitro sedans outdoors though we all ran paragon over the zipgrip.

i was thinking wrong i was thinking about schumachers grip im not sure what its called though. im using zip grip which works fine.i think dip traction is schumachers grip right? ike pm me about your corally

for anyone looking for classic 12th bodies.. eagle model (usually distributed through integy but i doubt you can get this through them) has some listed on their site..

proline body page
BD1603L 1/12 Nissan P35 GTP Light Weight
BD1603R 1/12 Nissan P35 GTP Regular Weight

frewer body page
#248 1/12 NISSAN GTP BODY
#249 1/12 US.TOJ BODY
#511 1/12 NISSAN GTP Light Weight ( 2pcs)

TQ 8+ worked well in my 1/10 pan car days. It had just a slight orange oil smell. Smelled good. Reminds me, anyone remember how Maxtec motor spray smelled like fruit loops!!!! Then we tore the label off and saw that is was actually Japanese brake cleaner. The old label was still under the maxtec one. SWEET! ;)

Just read Mark payne's diff building piece & thought this may help out - Mark uses T-cut to grind in the diff bearings. Cheaper & more accessable substitute - toothpaste!!! Used to use it when I used to race BMX for exactly the same purpose.

I think it's another wonderfully helpful piece!! Many thanks for the ongoing time and effort.

Scottrik

Thanks guys, great advise - suntan lotion gave 8+ min of great traction. Did awesome in my 1st 1/12 race!

I ran a Stock, but now I want to get a 19T. I have invested way to much in high end laydown brushes with my Sedan Stock setup and would prefer to get a motor that uses them.

I've been looking at Chameleon 2 and Komodo; Trinity's web site for Chameleon says it uses laydown brushes, but their Brush web page says the Standup brushes are for all their 19's including Chameleon 2. The Komodo page doesn't say which brush type it uses nor does it give RPM/Torque stats, it just implies that it has more torque when it says it's better for heavier cars. I suspect RPM is king in 1/12, so I was leaning towards Chameleon 2.

Are both of these laydown brush type? Which is higher RPM?
Thanks.

The cameleon 2 uses stand up brushes...

Chameleon 2 uses laydown brushes... http://www.teamtrinity.com/shop/motors/chameleon2.html

Their adjustable timing 19t motors use stand up.

C2 has laydown for sure as BB says.

If you are racing, the C2 is ROAR approved while the Komodo is not (yet!). May also depend on what your race track allows.

bill?? according to roar its been good since may 1st.

Super Stock 19T Trinity Epic Tri 12003 Komodo Dragon Lt. Green Can, laydn br. .312 com 5/1/2006

that line should answer everyone's questions.

Good that they are legal and laydown.
Thank you.

Is one higher RPM and the other higher Torque, or is the Komodo better at both?