COME ON TRAXXAS WAVE THAT MAGIC WAND AT ON ROAD!!!
 

Reading all the numerous threads about the need to spec this and that, have often lead to frustration for Im sure the majority of readers. Equally frustrating have been the many threads about how to improve entry levels and save struggling tracks.

For quite some time I have found myself coming to the same theory. I usually keep it to myself as I have doubted any likely support for the concept. With elements in racing being what they are, maybe now is the time.

I think TRAXXAS COULD DO MAGIC FOR ON ROAD RACING!!!

Picture this,

Slash Platform = Parts crossing over and availability would be great. The larger size seems to thrill most. This platform could also allow the races to be held on less than perfect surfaces. Any parking lot would work. Every hobby shop in every city could do demo races if they wished. This platform has also been one of the most cost effective things ever to hit racing.

Carry over the realism = Consumers have proven they dig the realism of SC trucks, VTA cars, & RCGT cars. Traxxas could fit right into the current trend of VTA and RCGT enthusiast with ease by creating their own class as they did for Short Course off road.

Traxxas has the power = There was a time when Traxxas was a joke to some or even most. That time has change big time. No one with a brain can deny that Traxxas is a massive force in this industry. They make incredible products and back them up with even better service. Just look at the explosion of products that came to life all spawning from the first time T-Maxxs hit the tracks. Its likely that this impact will never be out done. Then they follwed it up with the Slash! Not only is it huge in the manner that the T-Maxx was but we can wath full sized slashes on Speed Channel. lol

The Traxxas (inset name) RCGT & VTA RTR = Sign me up! Ill bet if this were to happen, asphalt and rug racers would see a "Traxxas Revolution" to call our own.

As much as it pains me to say it.....


You might be onto something Q;)

;)

I'd have to agree. A realistic on-road car from Traxxas would make for a really fun spec class, just like Slash does! Maybe bring out a Ken Block Fiesta and a Pastrana STI. That would fit in with their current line up pretty good and would make tons of people interested, since Block's Gymkhana is one of the biggest videos ever on the net. I guess all we can do is sit here and hope Traxxas sees this thread, which might get the gears turning for their product developers.

Yes, exactly!

I know that there will be people to say "it has already been done" but the point is, it has not been done by TRAXXAS!! :nod:

You never know. Right now seems some of the main issues people are complaining about fall back to overall cost versus being competitive.

Maybe if traxxas did make something that was highly cost effective as well as fun to drive and durable, could have something.

My question would be though, would it be by its nature to be cost effective a 2wd vehicle? And if so, would people accept that?

Running VTA, it would be pretty cool to have something along those lines.

bigger vehicles wouldn't bother me much either especially if the bodies are beefed up and tires last longer.

I have done some tuning on a Slash for asphalt and yeah I would go for it in 2wd. I have even considered getting an 1/8th scale IGT body for it to mess around with.

But on the subject of 2wd or 4wd. The 4wd Slash is also a bargain at about $360-$400 considering its Brushless, 2.4, waterproof, and 4wd.

I suggested this while ago,
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...ht=2wd+touring
there were 60:40 split opinions in that time,seem like some ppl are afraid of change, they keep bringing up why it wouldnt work before even give it a try. there is more than 12 Angry man in this world.


anyway, good post! here is a bump TTT!

I think the term "bargain" is very relative to how long you have been in RC and what funds you can draw on.

To those who this kind of vehicle would be an attraction to, it would need to be in the similar price range of the current 2wd SCTs RTR, assuming a similar 2wd setup.

Traxxas probably would do good to also get a lower CG chassis for it since it would be an onroad vehicle as well.

It may also be that some see WGT as what is going to help onroad since it is 2wd and cheaper relative to a 4wd touring car, at least, it appears to be.

I am a diehard on-road fan and I race on-road; so I sincerely hope that Traxxas does indeed see this thread and develop an on-road car and offer it with some scale bodies such as some muscle cars, sports cars, classsic racing cars, etc.!!:)

However, now to reality; I seriously doubt that they will as off-road "play-in-the-dirt" is all the rage and has been for a few years now and shows no sign of letting up. The off-road crowd has won and we on-road fans are probably going to have to be content with what we have.:(

We have to remember that Traxxas is first and foremost a business and they are therefore going to produce "safe" products that they know will sell and turn a profit, and so long as the other manufacturers and the rc magazines continue to favor off-road then not much is going to change I'm afraid:(
and the majority of the buying public will just go along with it.

So, I hope that I'm wrong but I just had to be honest. I have written several emails to different manufacturers and all the rc magazines and most have replied and are not willing to change with regards to how they are going about things. They all are quick to remind me that they are in business to turn a profit and off-road is where the money is, not on-road; so there is little or no motivation to develop much in the way of new on-road products.

The best thing you ALL can do is write Traxxas an email and tell them what you want; don't just talk about it here in this forum; get out there and write them. Maybe if enough of us did that then they might listen!

Quite frankly your best bet for new affordable on-road product is HPI as they are based in Japan which has a large on-road base and as such they are the ones who each year introduce some new on-road vehicles such as the Cup Racer, the Switch, the F10, etc. I have emailed them with suggestions and received positive responses! Traxxas, Losi, Associated are all based in America and over here dirt is king!

didn't HPI at one time have a larger scale sedan? Don't recall its name, but I do remember it.

Traxxas already did that, plastic tub chassis, direct drive, 2wd, independent suspension front and rear, oil filled shocks, and a ball diff. It was called the Street Sport.

I have been looking at bit at this:

http://www.rjspeed.com/kits/Sport/2020.html

http://www.rjspeed.com/images/images...8-2020kitj.jpg

http://www.rjspeed.com/images/images/Kits/2020feats.jpg

didn't look bad for $150.

And it was a piece of junk. The tires that came with it looked more like airplane tires and worked horribly.

that look like a car from Bolink.

IMO waht we need is a 2WD car with modern independent suspensions on rubber tires.

HPI, Kyosho, and Tamiya all did. HPI had the Super Nitro RS4 and the electric version of the same car. Kyosho had the Super 10 I believe in both nitro and electric versions. Tamiya I can only remember in nitro version in the TG10 and TGR.

They were fun cars to drive but the electric ones never caught on as well as the nitros because of power. This was before brushless and LiPo though. Now with these new technologies it would be nice to see the large scale on-road cars make a comeback. Personally I'd prefer it came from Tamiya bit Traxxas could do it nicely too.

Stay on track.
 

Lets not loose track of the topic here. There have been plenty of threads about random formats and how they could be implemented into racing. The point here though is really about a few key words.

TRAXXAS, SLASH BASED PLATFORM

That'll just be Tamiya all over again when they developed the TA01 chassis from the mantaray, which was a good spec buggy.

:nod::nod::nod: I heard they having 100s of those at Speedworld raceway in California, btw SWR is one of the finest on-road track in the US

Oh ok...I read it as Traxxas make an on-road large scale car and suggests a Slash format. Honestly it would take a complete reworking of the Slash to make it an on-road car. They would be better off making a whole new on-road car that incorporates some Slash parts for carry over like the suspension arms and gearbox...just about everything else would need to be changed.

that would be a great idea. :nod:

Who wouldn´t like a Vw golf mk1 or Any other hot hatchs?????

Fair enough.

Stuff like this + Traxxas = Kits Sold!

http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satelli...11242746208542

It would take a ton of money and some hot women to make me drive Traxxas junk

this is a pretty damn good idea.

R

Lol I think we already have enough ginormous jumps like that in 1/8th off road already. Some amature tracks I have seen makes me wonder if it is a race course or rc X games.:confused:

And why just Traxxas? Tamiya has been making scale RC since the dawn of RC.

You want an updated 4-Tec? Or something a bit more campy?


http://www.traxxas.com/products/elec...c/trx_4tec.htm

Were you in California on Tuesday night?!? We were just talking about this very thing at our local track. The Slash/SC Truck onroad equivalent. Funny.

I'm remembering the AE RC-10DS...onroad version of the RC-10 buggy. It never caught on though.

The slash is well enough behaved to pull it off, perhaps some anti roll bars to tame the body roll a bit, but if you want some scale car behaviour, slash has it in buckets:nod:

Anyone remember the RC10DS?

This was basically the associated version of what you are talking about. It looks like a RC10 with shorter suspension arms, shorter shocks, and on road tires (It came with a Mercedes DTM body or a Camaro body).

But back to the point, yes it would be great if Traxxas brought out a 2wd on-road type car.

HPI practically has this level of car with the sprint-2 chassis, they just need a race legal esc/motor combo to make it work. I know for RTR fast sells, but there is proof that $200 rtRACE sells also.

Great more RTRs. Like slowly adding poison to your food.

The roll would need to be tamed a lot. Roll bars would help but it would still just be an off-road car being ran on-road and would turn many people off. Redesigning it with a lowered chassis and suspension mounts would widen it's appeal to many more people. It may have scale behavior off-road but it is far from it on-road.

Might as well just buy a touring car then.....:rolleyes:;)

Rally car based perhaps? That way there is no expectation of a finally groomed racing surface. You could run on carpet, asphalt, or even a dusty parking lot. Perhaps even have enough play in the suspension that small jumps could be added. Jumps are a big draw to racers and the crowd. We use 4" jumps in our slash on-road class and it gives it further appeal even though that is hardly a jump.

Working in a hobby shop for the last 5 years I know that there aren't any cars on the market that offer the kind of versatility, durability and ease of use that something like a Slash based on-road car could offer. Something like the HPI Sprint 2 springs to mind, but having sold a few of those I know they don't meet the requirements. Belt drive means that parking lot driving is very difficult and it's small size and super low clearance means that small rocks give it trouble.
Something more 1/8th scale would be really cool. Larger diameter tires and clearance in the range of 10mm with a completely sealed drive train would mean that any old newbie could take it out and bash with it. You could jump curbs with it and not worry about pebbles. The second very important factor would be to make sure the handling balance is very neutral right out of the box, just like the Slash is. Actually the best part about the Slash is that it's just really FUN to drive, and that's the most important thing.

Yeah, like the poison that was the Slash that doubled entries at club races so tracks can stay open? Yeah. That poison.

The Slash can hustle around an on-road course pretty well, if all you want it to do is not tip over and have tractable over-steer--obviously, a touring car it ain't. What makes Slash racing fun in the dirt also makes it fun on pavement: big trucks, lots of body roll so they look like they're really hauling, and crazy durability. The best part is, there are already scads of Slash guys out there you could tap. You don't have to wait on Traxxas to do anything--just start racing and see if it catches on!

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I work at Traxxas

You will be hard pressed to get Traxxas to expand or update any of their onroad stuff (4-tec and Nitro 4-tec). Traxxas main concern is offroad and lately, being the leader at having affordable RTRs and first product of a class (Tmaxx, Revo, Slash, brushless system in RTRs, etc). Their bread and butter is and has been offroad and that will be the way it will probably be for a while longer.