CRC / Advanced Electronics Black Diamond Speedo - Ban due to cost??
11-30-2009, 03:26 PM
#78
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The other thing I heard at the Champs was that Tekin will not be able to catch up to the AE speedo with just a firmware update. They will have to change the board inside (at a minimum) to get the ESC to do what they need. If this is true, my guess would be that the current microcontroller on the board does not have enough memory to hold larger rpm/load/timing maps. (the electronic geeks out there will understand). Hopefully they will have an update/exchange program for current RS/Pro users. Of course, even if they don't, its easy to sell off existing RS/Pros to people who race offroad, where none of this speedo sillyness matters.
11-30-2009, 03:26 PM
#79
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11-30-2009, 03:27 PM
#80
I found out why this new ESC is so expensive. After you race it you can take it out of your car and put it on your shoulders and it will give you a massage. Then after the race you can take it home and put on the pillow next to you and it will sing you a lullaby and put you to sleep. 
11-30-2009, 03:32 PM
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You won't be when a $400 speedo comes out for off-road that has some sort of "Traction Control" in it... I don't believe off-road is immune for this, as if an ESC can h.p. up for on-road, I'm sure it can be programmed/designed to h.p. down for off-road (i.e. traction control). Someone is probably already working on it.
It was actually BANNED from sanctioned racing because it was able to detect over yawing of the car and correct throttle input to compensate.
I'm not 100% sure if the steering servo was run thru the ESC as well to help counter steer the car as well.
11-30-2009, 03:33 PM
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. But it seems to be a double standard. Leads me to believe the real reason for a ban is not the lack of availability. If that were the case Tekin drivers wouldn't use firmware in meaningful races that isn't available to the public.Really not due to lack of availability. Were you at cleveland??? What went down was a absolute crime and people should get there money returned to them. They were forced to run against a speedo they def had a advantage and they couldnt get there hands on them. IT was really a shame. Im not here to bash AE speedo they did there homework but they should have been available to eveyone there to buy. Mr bill didnt step in because CRC was the title sponsor of they event. IM not bashing CRC either but they should have been more available. I dont want this to go down at my track so that is the reason why i did it. If anyone has any issues with it or want to discuss why i did it heres my number 9087704989.
11-30-2009, 03:39 PM
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Really not due to lack of availability. Were you at cleveland??? What went down was a absolute crime and people should get there money returned to them. They were forced to run against a speedo they def had a advantage and they couldnt get there hands on them. IT was really a shame. Im not here to bash AE speedo they did there homework but they should have been available to eveyone there to buy. Mr bill didnt step in because CRC was the title sponsor of they event. IM not bashing CRC either but they should have been more available. I dont want this to go down at my track so that is the reason why i did it. If anyone has any issues with it or want to discuss why i did it heres my number 9087704989.
Im not meaning to bash Tekin. I have an RS and like it. It's just an example of the double standard of availability. For those of us that don't have a ESC sponsor this might be our opportunity to finally have something cutting edge.
Im really on the fence about the bans. The only things I've concluded is that its a potential mess (and sounds like it was at the Indoor Champs).
11-30-2009, 03:40 PM
#86
Really not due to lack of availability. Were you at cleveland??? What went down was a absolute crime and people should get there money returned to them. They were forced to run against a speedo they def had a advantage and they couldnt get there hands on them. IT was really a shame. Im not here to bash AE speedo they did there homework but they should have been available to eveyone there to buy. Mr bill didnt step in because CRC was the title sponsor of they event. IM not bashing CRC either but they should have been more available. I dont want this to go down at my track so that is the reason why i did it. If anyone has any issues with it or want to discuss why i did it heres my number 9087704989.
11-30-2009, 03:43 PM
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I don't have an issue with what you did as I don't race there and no I wasn't at Cleveland. But I don't see the crime here. Or at least not something that hasn't happened in the past. Like I said. Tekin makes firmware available to their drivers that I can't get for months and those drivers use it in meaningful races. I have access to a BD ESC, I don't to Tekin's firmware. Which is the crime??
Im not meaning to bash Tekin. I have an RS and like it. It's just an example of the double standard of availability. For those of us that don't have a ESC sponsor this might be our opportunity to finally have something cutting edge.
Im really on the fence about the bans. The only things I've concluded is that its a potential mess (and sounds like it was at the Indoor Champs).
Im not meaning to bash Tekin. I have an RS and like it. It's just an example of the double standard of availability. For those of us that don't have a ESC sponsor this might be our opportunity to finally have something cutting edge.
Im really on the fence about the bans. The only things I've concluded is that its a potential mess (and sounds like it was at the Indoor Champs).
11-30-2009, 03:48 PM
#88
Really not due to lack of availability. Were you at cleveland??? What went down was a absolute crime and people should get there money returned to them. They were forced to run against a speedo they def had a advantage and they couldnt get there hands on them. IT was really a shame. Im not here to bash AE speedo they did there homework but they should have been available to eveyone there to buy. Mr bill didnt step in because CRC was the title sponsor of they event. IM not bashing CRC either but they should have been more available. I dont want this to go down at my track so that is the reason why i did it. If anyone has any issues with it or want to discuss why i did it heres my number 9087704989.
Jeff
if AE were available for public would you buy one and race with them? or any other top level (all sponsered drivers as far as I know) driver would do that? I don't think you would or any of paid drivers would. then out come is same.
AE came out on top at iic and indoor race this year and Tekin LRP or the novak all got big homework to do to earn our next business.
11-30-2009, 03:50 PM
#89
We can agree to disagree. But I think prototype firmware not available to the public used in any race is worse than what the BD is doing.
Just my .02.