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02-23-2010 | 03:22 PM
#2611
Tech Initiate
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 23
From: Finland
Competition 2.0 Endless Offroad 7.5
I have this motor(still new in box) which i've seen advertised as 6000kv and 450watts.Is this true?The rating seems high for a 7.5 motor, also what are the differences in the Offroad motors compared to the other Competition 2.0 motors?Other than the cans being of a closed design I haven't been able to find any info.This motor will be going in a monster truck along with a GT 2.0 LPF or GT 2.0 pro and 2 cell lipo so any suggestions on which esc and/or settings would help too.
Last edited by Got sand?; 02-25-2010 at 03:32 PM.
02-23-2010 | 05:23 PM
#2612
Tech Regular
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 362
From: Singapore
I played around with timing yesterday... I was never interested in changing timing on the motor cause of temp issues... but out of curiosity last night, i maxed out timing on the motor with stock timing on the esc (110 software)... wow...WOW... the motor now screams at full throttle... this was a 'tabletop' test.
I think i will have a temp issue for sure this time... made 4 quick pulls bringing motor up gradually to full throttle, and the motor and esc was already warm... motor was registering 36 degrees and esc 40 degrees (celcius)... i know... still a long way to go... but this was a tabletop test though... if on the track with load and all... i just cant imagine... will have to take temp readings every 2 minutes just to be on the safe side.
02-23-2010 | 05:28 PM
#2613
Tech Fanatic
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 893
Speed Passion 1S Boost
Does anyone have a lead time on the Cirtix motors? In particular the 5500 and 8000kv versions that will be coming later on.
I'm guessing these will be compatible with all current brushless speedo's or there would be much point in releasing them but what about the wind limit on some esc's. Example the LPF has a 5.5t lower limit, could it run the 8000kv motor given that it runs cooler and with less amp draw?
I'm guessing these will be compatible with all current brushless speedo's or there would be much point in releasing them but what about the wind limit on some esc's. Example the LPF has a 5.5t lower limit, could it run the 8000kv motor given that it runs cooler and with less amp draw?
And when is the new software release ?
02-23-2010 | 06:58 PM
#2617
Tech Rookie
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 12
From: Aruba
type of lipo battery for the Speedpassion 3.5T
Guys need some help, I'm running a GT 2.0 Pro of speedpassion with a 3.5 T, spur gear 74, pinion 12, which type of lipo would be recommended to use.
Also if you have a thicker cable type Awg8 from the lipo to the ESC battery connectors are Awg12 is it a good setup
Will be in waiting for anyones reply.
Also if you have a thicker cable type Awg8 from the lipo to the ESC battery connectors are Awg12 is it a good setup
Will be in waiting for anyones reply.
02-23-2010 | 07:08 PM
#2618
I recently posted that I had an SP 13.5 v3 that seemed to have sensor problems...
I tore down my SP 13.5 v3 and found that the rotor to sensor spacing was approximately 2mm -- roughly twice what Shawn had recommended! I have adjusted the spacing down to 1mm, and have only been able to do a workbench test, but Tuesday night I hope to get in a full track test on "practice night"... I'll report my findings then in the hope that some of this might help someone else...
I tore down my SP 13.5 v3 and found that the rotor to sensor spacing was approximately 2mm -- roughly twice what Shawn had recommended! I have adjusted the spacing down to 1mm, and have only been able to do a workbench test, but Tuesday night I hope to get in a full track test on "practice night"... I'll report my findings then in the hope that some of this might help someone else...
The first run, the motor started out strong, then about half way into the run, began to go soft, cogging at low speeds, etc. (all the old symptoms)... I checked all the connections, etc, and everything was as it should be... Still "cogged"... I turned everything off, then powered back up, essentially resetting the ESC -- no cogging! (It would appear that once the ESC switches to "sensorless" operation, it stays that way until "rebooted"..?)
I went out for a second run, and the motor ran strong for the full run...? (Good news, but since nothing had been changed since the first run, also confusing...?)
I let the motor cool and made a third run -- the motor ran strong for the full run... (again good news, but also confusing...)
So -- I don't "trust" the motor, but it DID complete two full runs without problems... After struggling for two weeks, it's hard to go with it again, but it's also hard to "shelf" what might be a good motor...
PS: I cannot take the sensor-to-rotor spacing any lower -- to get to 1mm, I had to relocate ALL the shims from the back side of the rotor to the output side...
Any advice...?
02-23-2010 | 07:22 PM
#2619
Tech Master
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,059
From: Oreganastan Pacific Wonderland home to Indoor Farming
Well -- It's Tuesday night, and I got some track time... Sadly, I am as confused and frustrated as ever...
The first run, the motor started out strong, then about half way into the run, began to go soft, cogging at low speeds, etc. (all the old symptoms)... I checked all the connections, etc, and everything was as it should be... Still "cogged"... I turned everything off, then powered back up, essentially resetting the ESC -- no cogging! (It would appear that once the ESC switches to "sensorless" operation, it stays that way until "rebooted"..?)
I went out for a second run, and the motor ran strong for the full run...? (Good news, but since nothing had been changed since the first run, also confusing...?)
I let the motor cool and made a third run -- the motor ran strong for the full run... (again good news, but also confusing...)
So -- I don't "trust" the motor, but it DID complete two full runs without problems... After struggling for two weeks, it's hard to go with it again, but it's also hard to "shelf" what might be a good motor...
PS: I cannot take the sensor-to-rotor spacing any lower -- to get to 1mm, I had to relocate ALL the shims from the back side of the rotor to the output side...
Any advice...?
The first run, the motor started out strong, then about half way into the run, began to go soft, cogging at low speeds, etc. (all the old symptoms)... I checked all the connections, etc, and everything was as it should be... Still "cogged"... I turned everything off, then powered back up, essentially resetting the ESC -- no cogging! (It would appear that once the ESC switches to "sensorless" operation, it stays that way until "rebooted"..?)
I went out for a second run, and the motor ran strong for the full run...? (Good news, but since nothing had been changed since the first run, also confusing...?)
I let the motor cool and made a third run -- the motor ran strong for the full run... (again good news, but also confusing...)
So -- I don't "trust" the motor, but it DID complete two full runs without problems... After struggling for two weeks, it's hard to go with it again, but it's also hard to "shelf" what might be a good motor...
PS: I cannot take the sensor-to-rotor spacing any lower -- to get to 1mm, I had to relocate ALL the shims from the back side of the rotor to the output side...
Any advice...?
Been There Done That...........
There is a loose solder joint in the sensor, it gets banged, goes 'sensorless' , then resets when you 'reboot' . Period !
Mark
02-23-2010 | 07:33 PM
#2620
Hmmm... Might be worth a try -- I wasn't able to get a sensor unit from Schumacher USA, but I was able to buy one from one of the racers on here... Sounds like you've been down this road...?
02-23-2010 | 08:06 PM
#2621
Don't we all 
if it runs like a bad sensor, and you replaced everything BUT the sensor, more than likely you'll need a sensor.
Don't bother callig me at the shop we have no sensors and our last sales day was yesterday.
I'll keep an eye out for one for you
Don't bother callig me at the shop we have no sensors and our last sales day was yesterday.
I'll keep an eye out for one for you
02-23-2010 | 09:12 PM
#2622
anyone tell me what ESC this is and how to program it? I have been looking all over for instructions... but cant find any.
It is a Speed Passion... have the Programming card for it... but no instructions to get it setup with my radio.
Thanks guys...
It is a Speed Passion... have the Programming card for it... but no instructions to get it setup with my radio.
Thanks guys...
02-23-2010 | 09:15 PM
#2623
PS: Like so many others, I hope the future of Speed Passion holds spots for you and Shawn -- we need the support you guys provide!
02-23-2010 | 09:20 PM
#2624
http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...552gt20pdf.pdf
02-23-2010 | 09:31 PM
#2625
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,295
From: Chicago Illinois USA
My advise....get a Tekin RS for 12th scale...btw, I have yet to see a 12th scale that is NOT Tekin.