Originally Posted by my4ari (Post 6973027)

Can anyone shed some light on whats going on with my motors. I have had 2 ultra sportsman 13.5 motors and both have cooked themselves after only a very short time of having them. The 2nd one cooked yesterday after only the 2nd run from new. I used the suggested gearing that the motor came with and after the first run was temp at 58deg celcius. After 3 mins of my 2nd race, about 3 mins into it the motor suddenly slowed so i pulled off. Temp gun showed 134deg celcius. Cars drivetrain is really free running and the speed control (Speed Passion GT2.0 Pro) was only at 56deg. I really dont know what im doing wrong but its getting really really expensive having to buy motors all the time and quite frankly, 2 motors in such a short time im regretting ever buying speed passion products. Please help

Originally Posted by MoonTrap (Post 6973070)

How are people finding the new 107 and 110 software against the Tekin 203 and the Mamba Max Pro ? especially on medium sized tracks

Originally Posted by dsyed1 (Post 6973613)

I have found 107 to be faster than the spx, however not as fast as the tekin 203 on top end speed., but on initial start torque, faster than spx and tekin

what i would say is aside from speedo/gearing one cannot ignore a good car setup and driving skills, some of the fast guys will remain faster because they are simply very good drivers...

lastly i am sure SP will be coming out with a newer faster software that will compete with the tekin 203.. probably sp 2.1 pro stock and it's software

here is my best 107 setup

ESC: SP GT 2.0 (PRO)
Software: 107
FDR: 104/47*1.9 = 4.23
Battery: Thunder Power 7.4v 40C
Motor: SP V3 17.5R
Track: 100 Foot Straight away total 100/50 foot
SP ESC Timing: 26 degrees
DRRS: 9
Drag Brake: 25%
Motor Timing: 10 degrees
Capacitor: SP Super Cap

if the motor is coming off too hot, i would go to 22 timing on the esc..

Originally Posted by tfrahm (Post 6971539)

Solara -- Thanks for the response... I am pretty sure the ESC is OK -- the LRP cable plug just appears to be under-sized (it is too easy to insert/pull out of the ESC -- it also does not have any locking notch to engage with the socket on the ESC... I have not yet figured out what the problem was with the Novak cable, and I WILL order an SP cable, just to be safe..

However, for now, I may have to either try the "tape trick" to make the cable I have a tighter fit or see if the Novak has some molding flash that prevents it from seating... At the track, in the heat of competition, it is hard to accurately diagnose some things. I have had such great performance and relaibility from my GT2.0 LPF's that this just caught me by surprise -- especially since I had never had a problem before, even with the combo using Novak motors (I've used both a 13.5 SS and Ballistic 13.5's with the other SP GT2.0 LPF and had great luck)..

PS: The new v3 13.5 is a GREAT MOTOR! when the cable was working right, this new motor is STRONG! better torque and better top end than the Ultrasporstman 13.5 I had been doing so well with. Motor temps indicate I can still gear up, gaining even more speed!

PS2: I should point out that a cable problem like this with a Novak ESC would have been MUCH worse -- A Novak ESC will NOT even run without the sensor cable connected! With the SP ESC, I was at least able to finish the main (the SP just switched over to sensorless operation automatically -- some cogging at low speed and loss of top end, but IT FINISHED THE RACE!).

Originally Posted by irgo (Post 6973655)

What is your Motor and ESC TEMP ?
And you should comparing with
same Motor Turn and FDR,Battery, same Car, with TEKIN/SPX
otherwise it doesn't mean anything yet, or have you ?

Originally Posted by my4ari (Post 6973027)

Can anyone shed some light on whats going on with my motors. I have had 2 ultra sportsman 13.5 motors and both have cooked themselves after only a very short time of having them. The 2nd one cooked yesterday after only the 2nd run from new. I used the suggested gearing that the motor came with and after the first run was temp at 58deg celcius. After 3 mins of my 2nd race, about 3 mins into it the motor suddenly slowed so i pulled off. Temp gun showed 134deg celcius. Cars drivetrain is really free running and the speed control (Speed Passion GT2.0 Pro) was only at 56deg. I really dont know what im doing wrong but its getting really really expensive having to buy motors all the time and quite frankly, 2 motors in such a short time im regretting ever buying speed passion products. Please help

Originally Posted by dsyed1 (Post 6974327)

by no means this is an official and detailed comparison analysis of the different speed controls, I have all three of them and tried running them all and ended up staying with SP gear

i am racing in the 17.5 class so everyone runs 17.5 from one brand or another, people are running anything from a duo, duo2, lrp x12, novak and speed passion v2 and v3 motors, but speedos are mostly either tekin or spx also most folks here are using similar 40c to 50c type lipo batteries as well

my motor temps are around 155-160 in the above setup, not sure the temp on the esc but i have the stock sp fan running on it..

i am currently racing with the same cars as well (xray t2/t3) that are running Tekin and SPX... I know off the line at start of the race my car has much more torque but Tekin 203 will pass me fairly easily once the turbo kicks in...

I think what i was trying to point out to in my observation is that car setup and driving skills are also a big part of the equation... i think you are probably at a greater competitive advantage by being a better driver and knowing car setup really well vs having the fastest speedo/motor or an expensive new car

Originally Posted by guinnes.s (Post 6974496)

ok i convinced myself to upgrade from GT PRO V1.1 to the GT PRO V2.0.
SORRY if my question as been asked before,but would the GT PRO V2.0 have in the future the dynamic timing settings?or WITCH SP MODEL WILL HAVE IT??
THANX

Originally Posted by mutley001 (Post 6975100)

Hi Guys
I'm after a starting setup for a GT2 pro running a 10.5 indoors in a TRF416x. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what progfile to use and a FDR please?

Cheers

Paul