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energydrink 01-26-2010 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by abailey21 (Post 6911046)
How fast can you handle?


How are other mod drivers gearing their 4.0's?

I ask because I seriously don't know but 2 mod tc guys and neither run a motor that low, they're both running 5.5's

thanks for the help.



Originally Posted by lochness42 (Post 6911242)
try to check manual you got with motor - there are recommended FDR ranges for each motor.

Ok, thanks. and what about esc settings with a speedpassion 2.0 for timing and stuff like that ?

Marcos.J 01-26-2010 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by energydrink (Post 6911026)
how should I gear a 4.0 V3.0 in a tc ?

I geared the 4.0 V2 motor around 8.75 to 9.25 depending on the size of the track.

Marcos.J 01-26-2010 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by energydrink (Post 6912756)
thanks for the help.




Ok, thanks. and what about esc settings with a speedpassion 2.0 for timing and stuff like that ?

For Mod I've ran :
Drag brake#3
DRRS #5
brake force #2
Initial brake#1
neutral #2
timing #3 and #4 depending on track

razzor 01-26-2010 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by energydrink (Post 6911026)
how should I gear a 4.0 V3.0 in a tc ?

The local guys are running the 4.0 on lipo and the general gearing is around 21 - 24mm roll out track depending
Use 205g firmware or 323 and dont run timing higher than 18 deg with DRSS 5 or 6.

dfiantii 01-26-2010 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by TEM (Post 6912688)
I guess we would need new software for the PC (one with parameter change for "turbo" settings) and new firmware for the ESC.

MAYBE the only thing I can think of as a limiting factor is if the ESC's microcontroller can handle all the timing functions.

Basically we are talking about a launch timing (low) that gets the car moving from standstill.

Acceleration range timing advance. Start RPM to End RPM presets and the number of degrees of advance presets per 1000rpm of change (as per Tekin, but it can literally be anything depending on motor, track, etc).

Top Speed Boost; advance of X degrees IF full throttle was held on to for preset amount of time. And tekin even says this doesn't work for short tracks!

All makes very logical sense to me!

I think SP would need something different than what you speak of so it does not seem to copy what Tekin has.

irgo 01-27-2010 08:35 AM

SpeedPassion GT2.x Turbo
 

Originally Posted by charlie_b (Post 6910872)
It is only a matter of time. Development isn't as easy as one may think. There are a lot of trial and errors involved. Perfection is achieved when all is done right to begin with. You can't just figure out the magic software and pull it out of a hat and say "here it is!" Just be patient.

Cant wait...


Originally Posted by TEM (Post 6912618)
Where did you find information on what the "tekin turbo" really is?

According to this http://forum.teamtekin.com/phpbb3/vi...hp?f=30&t=2413 from tekin's forum, it looks like a software thing! The key is timing change proportional to motor speed. It's variable timing!


Originally Posted by TEM (Post 6912688)
I guess we would need new software for the PC (one with parameter change for "turbo" settings) and new firmware for the ESC.

MAYBE the only thing I can think of as a limiting factor is if the ESC's microcontroller can handle all the timing functions.

Basically we are talking about a launch timing (low) that gets the car moving from standstill.

Acceleration range timing advance. Start RPM to End RPM presets and the number of degrees of advance presets per 1000rpm of change (as per Tekin, but it can literally be anything depending on motor, track, etc).

Top Speed Boost; advance of X degrees IF full throttle was held on to for preset amount of time. And tekin even says this doesn't work for short tracks!

All makes very logical sense to me!

All of those I've been ask Adam on previous,
What is Called Dynamic Advanced Multi Timing,
it is not only, Physical Timing (motor) and Advanced Multi Timing (software).
Dynamic Advanced Multi Timing
which is now noted on GT 2.1 Pro Stock
it's likely different timing on different rpm edge.
Which software doing.

While torque is maintained.

F-1 01-27-2010 01:51 PM

HellO! Which ceramic bearings I can to buy for Speed Passion V3 6.5t motor?? Or Standart is OK??

TryHard 01-27-2010 03:15 PM

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For thoose asking about a 4.0t setup, have a look at this file from the Europe guys, details what they are running (it's included with the v1.32 software download from the SP site).

Also, regarding 12th.... Elliott Harper was running a GT2.0 in his CRC this weekend, TQing and winning the Stock class on the saturday (10.5/4cell). Asked him about his settings, and they are as follows;
Firmware; 107Stock
Motor; Comp v3
Drag brake; 0%
Initial Brak; as Drag
DRRS; 6
ESC timing; max (26.25)
Motor timing; max (+10)
Voltage cutoff; off
Gearing; 56mmpr
He did mention the motor was getting a bit too hot... so maybe use thoose as a baseline, but with a little less ESC timing to start. He also mentioned that he tried higher on the DRRS setting, but felt he had the same speed with more heat, so no need to go higher.

HiH
Ed

HanIce 01-27-2010 06:11 PM

Can anyone tell me what rotor diameter comes with the speed passion 17.5 v3??

I heard plenty good stuff about this motor, but how does it compare to the fantom ion2???

mr crum 01-27-2010 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by HanIce (Post 6918192)
Can anyone tell me what rotor diameter comes with the speed passion 17.5 v3??

I heard plenty good stuff about this motor, but how does it compare to the fantom ion2???

roar legal 12.3 mm rotor just like all sp spec motors

HanIce 01-27-2010 06:17 PM

Thank you.

FIVE 7 01-27-2010 08:41 PM

12th Scale Firmware....
 
Wonder how he was getting the 107 profile to work with only a 4 cell. I have tried it along with a few others here with the 1S and no luck.....must be just that little extra voltage bump from 3.7 to 4.8 that makes the difference. Although I just Won and TQ'd in a local event this past weekend with my XII with a 1S and V3 17.5 using the GT 2.0 LPF. :nod: I used the 312a firmware and it worked really well. :)

Can"t wait for the new 2.1 to come out.....

RTR canada 01-27-2010 10:42 PM

so we will probably get the new software when they release the 2.1!! anyone know the release day? lol

RTR canada 01-27-2010 10:58 PM

anyone know what the equivalent KV's a 17.5 motor would be?

SlideMasteR 01-28-2010 01:23 AM

new stock software
 
hi guys

I have a SP v2.0 LPF which I have just loaded the new stock softeware on and was wondering if and by how much I should change my roll out by ? currently running it in 10.5 touring class.

another question, I see in the new v1.32 software that there is 2 stock profiles, what is the diff between the two and which one would best suite 10.5 ?

tx in advance


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