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bluephi1914 03-02-2009 06:08 PM

VTA setup for Xray T2 007
 
I was wondering in anyone had any input on a nice setup for VTA for a T2 007 US ed.

what Springs... Camber,Toe in/out etc.

Clayton 03-03-2009 01:55 AM

i am also setting up a t2 007 at the moment but a EU spec version, would also appreciate any advice on set-up,
will be running silver can 540 motor & lipo's on out door concrete track.
thank you.

bluephi1914 03-03-2009 02:23 AM

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Ricky/C 03-03-2009 02:40 AM

Firstly run NIMH, the pack has loads of more puch and at the end of a 6min race my NIMH packs voltage is 8V and my lipo 7.8V

NUCRPTRACER 03-03-2009 03:26 AM

....I use the 007 EU with the following on carpet....

FRNT:
.5 toe out
4degree caster
forward akerman at post
outside hole on steering block
3rd hole out upper shock mnt hole
40wt oil 3hole and 2 hole really preference
1.5mm wheel hexes to equal tire width frnt and rear
lower inside camber link position
frnt top deck posts removed
white frnt springs
outside lower shock mnt at arm
1 degree of camber
1.2 sway on (EU edition)
REAR:
1degree rear uprights
shocks layed down
30 wt oil
3 hole pistons
outside hole at arm
1.3 sway on (EU edition)
1.5 to 2 degrees camber
yellow springs
rear topdeck posts removed


I am gonna run this setup on my US kit this weekend without the sways may go with yellow all the way around...I run 21.5/lipo....

Hope this gives you guys a good start....

Clayton 03-03-2009 03:32 AM

thank you for a quick reply:)

NUCRPTRACER 03-03-2009 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Clayton (Post 5503068)
thank you for a quick reply:)

No problem let me know how it works out for you....:nod:

bluephi1914 03-03-2009 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by NUCRPTRACER (Post 5503048)
....I use the 007 EU with the following on carpet....

FRNT:
.5 toe out
4degree caster
forward akerman at post
outside hole on steering block
3rd hole out upper shock mnt hole
40wt oil 3hole and 2 hole really preference
1.5mm wheel hexes to equal tire width frnt and rear
lower inside camber link position
frnt top deck posts removed
white frnt springs
outside lower shock mnt at arm
1 degree of camber
1.2 sway on (EU edition)
REAR:
1degree rear uprights
shocks layed down
30 wt oil
3 hole pistons
outside hole at arm
1.3 sway on (EU edition)
1.5 to 2 degrees camber
yellow springs
rear topdeck posts removed


I am gonna run this setup on my US kit this weekend without the sways may go with yellow all the way around...I run 21.5/lipo....

Hope this gives you guys a good start....


ok.. i set my 07 US up very simular.. pink springs up front ,whites in back. 2 holes up front and 3 in back. i did not remove topdeck post.. although i will. i goto the track tomorrow and will make any further adjustments as needed.

i appreciate the fast response

NUCRPTRACER 03-04-2009 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by bluephi1914 (Post 5506930)
ok.. i set my 07 US up very simular.. pink springs up front ,whites in back. 2 holes up front and 3 in back. i did not remove topdeck post.. although i will. i goto the track tomorrow and will make any further adjustments as needed.

i appreciate the fast response

Pink springs up frnt maybe to much....But let me know if it works for ya...If not move the whites up frnt and throw some yellows on the rear....

bluephi1914 03-04-2009 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by NUCRPTRACER (Post 5507999)
Pink springs up frnt maybe to much....But let me know if it works for ya...If not move the whites up frnt and throw some yellows on the rear....

your right..pinks to stiff. whites all the way around, works nice.

NUCRPTRACER 03-05-2009 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by bluephi1914 (Post 5512269)
your right..pinks to stiff. whites all the way around, works nice.

Sweet glad to see it works for ya...:nod:

bluephi1914 03-06-2009 02:51 AM

what differences would the yellow springs in the rear do for me.

NUCRPTRACER 03-06-2009 03:30 AM

Yellows would just soften the rear...Your car may push a little if so stick with the whites...I just think that using the softer springs and making shck oil and piston changes give you a finer tunning adjustments.....Remember that these tires are truly in between Foams and rubbers...They have a alot of traction as they break in and tire prepp and care will keep your car as consistent as it can be....With not being able to change inserts or compounds tire care is amplified....I am thinking of trying yellow all around...White all around is pretty sweet though....Do some testing for sure and post your findings or PM me and I will do the same that way we can hit the sweet spot faster:sneaky:.......Plus becareful as it is easy to get these cars to stick to much....Find the spot thats almost loose and that will hold....Keep it there.....Also if your not allready try a oneway or oneway fixed I assume you have a multidiff....Actually...post what your running....IE: Batt's, motor etc.

bluephi1914 03-07-2009 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by NUCRPTRACER (Post 5517790)
Yellows would just soften the rear...Your car may push a little if so stick with the whites...I just think that using the softer springs and making shck oil and piston changes give you a finer tunning adjustments.....Remember that these tires are truly in between Foams and rubbers...They have a alot of traction as they break in and tire prepp and care will keep your car as consistent as it can be....With not being able to change inserts or compounds tire care is amplified....I am thinking of trying yellow all around...White all around is pretty sweet though....Do some testing for sure and post your findings or PM me and I will do the same that way we can hit the sweet spot faster:sneaky:.......Plus becareful as it is easy to get these cars to stick to much....Find the spot thats almost loose and that will hold....Keep it there.....Also if your not allready try a oneway or oneway fixed I assume you have a multidiff....Actually...post what your running....IE: Batt's, motor etc.


Cool,

I will do more testing tonight.... and post

Currently I am running
  1. White springs all way round with 350 shock oil
  2. Multi Diff up front...set up as a Spool (thats with the Pin in and the insert) I think the book calls it full time locking axle
  3. Novak 21.5
  4. Speed Passion ESC LPF
  5. Im running Lipo SMC 4100(green) , 4000(red)
  6. 102 spur 41 pinion ( puts me at 4.22 final)
  7. I have the wide top deck...with NO aluminum stands

NUCRPTRACER 03-07-2009 07:21 AM

I ran my 009eu last night in VTA...I have been swapping between the 007 and 009....I am gonna stick with the 009 but my setups are identical between the 2.....I applaud you for being able to drive with the spool:nod:..I am running the oneway fixed so I get the best of both worlds oneway and spool..

I am gonna try a swaybar on the rear.....Which body are you running?

bluephi1914 03-08-2009 05:25 AM

Camaro body,

Mine did ok last night.... it seems a little loose... not holding like my touring car in the turns. I know thats an apple/oranges comparrison.. but some of the guys at the track drivetheir VTA's like their Touring cars. :nod: I am currently trying to figure that out.

NUCRPTRACER 03-08-2009 04:07 PM

You could try a stiffer front spring......I am running the pegusas mustang

nashrcracer 03-08-2009 06:19 PM

I ran the drew ellis 2006 pavement nats setup on mine swaybars and all. handles well for pavement and loose carpet.

Stetler17 03-09-2009 09:55 AM

NU,

You say your running the front with the one-way fixed, as in the left and right locked together but not to the gear? I haven't tried it like that yet, only spool or true one-way w/ each wheel independent.

How does it make the car react compared to the other set-ups?

Thanks for any help.

Mark

NUCRPTRACER 03-09-2009 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by Stetler17 (Post 5529419)
NU,

You say your running the front with the one-way fixed, as in the left and right locked together but not to the gear? I haven't tried it like that yet, only spool or true one-way w/ each wheel independent.

How does it make the car react compared to the other set-ups?

Thanks for any help.

Mark

Well with a spool you get great corner exit but you normally have to let it rotate thru the turn...But with the oneway fixed its best of both worlds....all the steering of a oneway and the corner speed with extra rip comin out..I like it alot I have a heck of a time with the spool you really have to have a setup set for the spool....If you like a oneway youll like the oneway fixed it will seem to have slight amount of understeer but it is easy to adapt...:nod:

bluephi1914 04-12-2009 04:41 AM

been a while since I posted.... but the vintage is a beast. Switched to a KO Propo servo (same as in my TC --T2 008) so it now steering feels the same.

Shocks layed down in the rear (one from bottom) and standing up in the front. Car is pretty sweet.... It goes where i want it to go and handles the turns nicely once tires are warmed up.


Since I have the foam edition it had the wide top deck... i am thinking about switching to the narrow top deck since i am not running the stands in the front or the back. I dont think that will make much of a difference siunce i am not running the stands so i may just keep the $40 and invest it else where.

Clayton 04-15-2009 04:09 AM

[QUOTE=NUCRPTRACER;5503048]....I use the 007 EU with the following on carpet....

FRNT:
.5 toe out
4degree caster
forward akerman at post
outside hole on steering block
3rd hole out upper shock mnt hole
40wt oil 3hole and 2 hole really preference
1.5mm wheel hexes to equal tire width frnt and rear
lower inside camber link position
frnt top deck posts removed
white frnt springs
outside lower shock mnt at arm
1 degree of camber
1.2 sway on (EU edition)
REAR:
1degree rear uprights
shocks layed down
30 wt oil
3 hole pistons
outside hole at arm
1.3 sway on (EU edition)
1.5 to 2 degrees camber
yellow springs
rear topdeck posts removed


i have only just got my car running on the weekend & found the rear of car to be loose, i was wondering when you say your rear shocks are layed over what hole are they in? thanks again for any advice.

bluephi1914 04-16-2009 04:46 AM

First... I use Paragon; Full Rear and 1/2 on the front tires.

and yes the rear of my car was also loose... before i changed my shock and paragon settings.


Check the picture for what i mean by shocks layed all the way down. This worked for me... and got the rear end under control. also check your ride height.. mine is at 5 1/2 front 6 rear. Also check droop screws... hey are important also. 2mm above ride hight is what mine is set at.


REAR
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2374/imag0056a.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/ima...jpg/1/w640.png


FRONT
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4804/imag0057f.jpg

Clayton 04-16-2009 05:23 AM

thanks mate, i will be racing this weekend so i'll try this & let you know how it goes:)

Clayton 04-17-2009 03:35 PM

i race the car last night for the first time, i loved it. it was a slippery surface
i was having traction problems but so was everybody else, all part of the fun really:lol:. but thank you for the advice, i'm converted now & dont think i will racing any touring car classes again for a long while:D

bluephi1914 04-18-2009 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by Clayton (Post 5697737)
i race the car last night for the first time, i loved it. it was a slippery surface
i was having traction problems but so was everybody else, all part of the fun really:lol:. but thank you for the advice, i'm converted now & dont think i will racing any touring car classes again for a long while:D


:) I felt the same way when i first ran my vintage

dragracer72nova 04-19-2009 07:20 PM

How do you guys like your 007 as T/A cars? I am a New owner of two 007 EU's and one is planned to be a T/A car. I am looking forward to the cars and see how they perform.
Dave

Clayton 04-19-2009 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by dragracer72nova (Post 5704992)
How do you guys like your 007 as T/A cars? I am a New owner of two 007 EU's and one is planned to be a T/A car. I am looking forward to the cars and see how they perform.
Dave

i'm only new to this hobby & not great at car set-up myself, i followed the advice on here & with help from a mate we got my car going pretty well, i just need more time driving it, it handles completely different to when i was racing it as a touring car, but so much more fun:nod:. i love it. besides x-ray cars can take a beating so i dont think you could go wrong.

bluephi1914 04-20-2009 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by dragracer72nova (Post 5704992)
How do you guys like your 007 as T/A cars? I am a New owner of two 007 EU's and one is planned to be a T/A car. I am looking forward to the cars and see how they perform.
Dave

I love mine... it takes left effort for me to drive , in comparison to my TC . Im not new to the hobby, but was new to on road TC. I have gotten much better with my TC and that is what i started driving first.... but now that I have tried vintage... i love it. Its fun to drive. I set mine up almost identical to my TC so it steers and handles simular. I have the US version... The EU should be even better for Vintage


YOU WILL LOVE IT :nod:

dragracer72nova 05-16-2009 02:08 PM

I am starting to work on the two EU 007's. Which springs do I need to buy for my cars(VT/A setup and a 17.5 setup)?
Dave

bluephi1914 05-17-2009 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by dragracer72nova (Post 5820409)
I am starting to work on the two EU 007's. Which springs do I need to buy for my cars(VT/A setup and a 17.5 setup)?
Dave


I switched from T2 007 us to an EU edition and I use the same setup as the T@ 008. 2.6 in front and 2.4 in rear.
the springs are both black in color. prior to that i was using white all the way round

FK05 lover 05-17-2009 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Clayton (Post 5502870)
i am also setting up a t2 007 at the moment but a EU spec version, would also appreciate any advice on set-up,
will be running silver can 540 motor & lipo's on out door concrete track.
thank you.

Give it to me for a couple of weeks Clayton...:nod:

bluephi1914 05-17-2009 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by bluephi1914 (Post 5822064)
I switched from T2 007 us to an EU edition and I use the same setup as the T@ 008. 2.6 in front and 2.4 in rear.
the springs are both black in color. prior to that i was using white all the way round

I actually might have 2.2 in the rear... as i was trying to get the rear end under control going into and mid way in the turns.

dragracer72nova 05-17-2009 08:26 AM

Whats the difference between the Colored and Number springs?
Dave

bluephi1914 05-17-2009 02:38 PM

I think the year the springs were made... blacks came on my T2 008 EU

Their is a conversion chart floating out there somewhere... I race at nexus and one of the owners had a conversion chart showing what the black 2.6 was equal to and what the 2.4 is euqal to...... and so on a so forth... let me see if i can track it down for you.

bluephi1914 05-17-2009 02:45 PM

Check this link out. Black springs are shorter according to xray site.

The conversion chart is in the link.

http://forum.teamxray.com/viewtopic.php?t=6746

dragracer72nova 05-17-2009 04:23 PM

Thank you for the help and info. Now I can get some springs ordered up.
Dave

bluephi1914 07-28-2009 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by dragracer72nova (Post 5824021)
Thank you for the help and info. Now I can get some springs ordered up.
Dave


how did those springs work out for you ?

bluephi1914 07-28-2009 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by dragracer72nova (Post 5704992)
How do you guys like your 007 as T/A cars? I am a New owner of two 007 EU's and one is planned to be a T/A car. I am looking forward to the cars and see how they perform.
Dave

I have actually upgraded to the T2 008 EU for my vintage. I had a little to much wheel chatter in my T2 007 EU and figured for the price of two ECS axles i could sell my T2 007 and put that $100 with it and get an 08 .

I am selling the 07 as we speak.

dragracer72nova 07-28-2009 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by bluephi1914 (Post 6128167)
how did those springs work out for you ?

Well I am stilling waiting to get my 007's ready to run. The hobby shop that I race at is waiting to get more parts to place an order. I have been racing dirt oval and I know that track has Xray parts. I should be running my Xrays at the end of August.
Thank you for the help
Dave


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