3LikesTamiya TRF415
02-28-2005, 09:59 AM
#7576
First Race with the 415MS
Hi all,
I've been reading this thread for about a month (actually read from page 1... ouch), but I've never posted. Thanks to everyone who contributed, the tips and tricks made it much easier to understand the car once I got around to building it.
I've got the MS, and finally put it together last week. I've been running a XXX-S, and it's been a great car (have been waiting for the JRXS).
I started with the box stock setup, only changing the pistons to 3 hole, and going to 35wt Losi oil all around. My first practice the car felt really good, though I didn't have a transponder in it, so I wasn't sure how quick it was. I race at So Cal, tight high grip asphalt, so I was thinking it might not be the best place for this car and setup, but it still felt great.
On Saturday, after comparing times betwen my XXX-S and the 415 back to back in practice, the MS went 11.1, XXX-S 11.0, so I figured I'd race it in stock. I ended up taking the win in Sportsman, the car felt quick and consistant, with a fast lap 10.6 in the A main. I may have been a little quicker with the XXX-S, but this is an outstanding first race for this car, especially since I only had 4 packs through it before the first qualifier, AND it wasn't really designed for an indoor track. To be fair, this weeks track is about as open and flowing as I've seen at So Cal, but it's still pretty tight.
Just wanted to share my good experience, and thank everyone for thier help. I'll be trying different setups, the locked center pulley and a spool soon.
Mike
I've been reading this thread for about a month (actually read from page 1... ouch), but I've never posted. Thanks to everyone who contributed, the tips and tricks made it much easier to understand the car once I got around to building it.
I've got the MS, and finally put it together last week. I've been running a XXX-S, and it's been a great car (have been waiting for the JRXS).
I started with the box stock setup, only changing the pistons to 3 hole, and going to 35wt Losi oil all around. My first practice the car felt really good, though I didn't have a transponder in it, so I wasn't sure how quick it was. I race at So Cal, tight high grip asphalt, so I was thinking it might not be the best place for this car and setup, but it still felt great.
On Saturday, after comparing times betwen my XXX-S and the 415 back to back in practice, the MS went 11.1, XXX-S 11.0, so I figured I'd race it in stock. I ended up taking the win in Sportsman, the car felt quick and consistant, with a fast lap 10.6 in the A main. I may have been a little quicker with the XXX-S, but this is an outstanding first race for this car, especially since I only had 4 packs through it before the first qualifier, AND it wasn't really designed for an indoor track. To be fair, this weeks track is about as open and flowing as I've seen at So Cal, but it's still pretty tight.
Just wanted to share my good experience, and thank everyone for thier help. I'll be trying different setups, the locked center pulley and a spool soon.
Mike
02-28-2005, 10:50 AM
#7577
Originally posted by ukmaxx
not really, just make sure when setting the layshaft pulleys that they do not rub on the bulkheads
not really, just make sure when setting the layshaft pulleys that they do not rub on the bulkheads
And SCML, welcome to the club, I'm sure you'll grow to love the car.
02-28-2005, 01:28 PM
#7580
Who's that driver???
O.K. i've been reading this thread at work today, wondering who that other driver was at carpetwars, so I make a phone call, and now I know.
Why is it such a big secret? He was there running it in front of everybody and i'm sure everybody on this thread will be well chuffed when they find out.
But I think I'll keep quiet for now
Why is it such a big secret? He was there running it in front of everybody and i'm sure everybody on this thread will be well chuffed when they find out.
But I think I'll keep quiet for now
02-28-2005, 01:57 PM
#7582
ackerman
Originally posted by litespeed-dom
Ok, the 415 gurus out here that have more than 2000 posts, know anything?
Sure hard to get questions answered on this thread.
TIA
Dom
Ok, the 415 gurus out here that have more than 2000 posts, know anything?
Sure hard to get questions answered on this thread.
TIA
Dom
dont expect the world huh!
Just kidding..Ackerman changes. This is what I have been playing with for some time now. I have flipped the rack, and moved the ball stud to the rear hole on the hub. The FARTHER from linear the tie rod from the arm becomes the less ackerman you have. This helps corner speed to a point. The equality of the wheels turning is key. If the link was closer to a linear pint to the suspension arm, you would increase ackerman, this would make your car cut into turns harder, but scrubbing corner speed down because of the ackerman... I hope this helps.
02-28-2005, 02:02 PM
#7584
Re: ackerman
Originally posted by Raul Garcia
Dom,
dont expect the world huh! Just kidding..
Ackerman changes. This is what I have been playing with for some time now. I have flipped the rack, and moved the ball stud to the rear hole on the hub. The FARTHER from linear the tie rod from the arm becomes the less ackerman you have. This helps corner speed to a point. The equality of the wheels turning is key. If the link was closer to a linear pint to the suspension arm, you would increase ackerman, this would make your car cut into turns harder, but scrubbing corner speed down because of the ackerman... I hope this helps.
Dom,
dont expect the world huh!
Just kidding..Ackerman changes. This is what I have been playing with for some time now. I have flipped the rack, and moved the ball stud to the rear hole on the hub. The FARTHER from linear the tie rod from the arm becomes the less ackerman you have. This helps corner speed to a point. The equality of the wheels turning is key. If the link was closer to a linear pint to the suspension arm, you would increase ackerman, this would make your car cut into turns harder, but scrubbing corner speed down because of the ackerman... I hope this helps.
Excellent explanation. Thanks! That's what my assumption was, guess I'll find out this Saturday with the 4 different combo to get a feel of it.
Dom
02-28-2005, 11:41 PM
#7585
found some 415 results...
Eirik Andreassen Tamiya 415/Peak raced at the big Nordic race....TQ'd and finished 3rd overall.
good job Eirik and thanks for the 415 tips you've emailed me.
do you have a setup sheet from that race you could post.
1:10 Touring Mod NWR 2005
1. Viktor Wilck
2. Andreas Myrberg
3. Eirik Andreassen TRF415
4. Joel Myrberg
5. Jonas Andersson
6. Alexander Hagberg
7. Helge Johannessen
8. Martin Sørlie
9. Endre Stensen
10. Thorbjørn Bakke
good job Eirik and thanks for the 415 tips you've emailed me.
do you have a setup sheet from that race you could post.
1:10 Touring Mod NWR 2005
1. Viktor Wilck
2. Andreas Myrberg
3. Eirik Andreassen TRF415
4. Joel Myrberg
5. Jonas Andersson
6. Alexander Hagberg
7. Helge Johannessen
8. Martin Sørlie
9. Endre Stensen
10. Thorbjørn Bakke
03-01-2005, 02:56 AM
#7586
Anthony,
Have have no idea how I can post that setup here, I really dont know my way around a computer
You got my pdf file right? So maybe you could post it here, I dont mind at all.
Have you tried those JB Foams I sent you?
Later,
Eirik
Have have no idea how I can post that setup here, I really dont know my way around a computer
You got my pdf file right? So maybe you could post it here, I dont mind at all.
Have you tried those JB Foams I sent you?
Later,
Eirik
03-01-2005, 08:52 AM
#7587
Originally posted by Eirik
Anthony,
Have have no idea how I can post that setup here, I really dont know my way around a computer
You got my pdf file right? So maybe you could post it here, I dont mind at all.
Have you tried those JB Foams I sent you?
Later,
Eirik
Anthony,
Have have no idea how I can post that setup here, I really dont know my way around a computer
You got my pdf file right? So maybe you could post it here, I dont mind at all.
Have you tried those JB Foams I sent you?
Later,
Eirik
I forgot you sent it to me....The setup Eirik used to TQ that event is attached.
Didn't use the foams yet....the track was out of TakeOffs when I arrived. I'll be testing them soon.
03-01-2005, 08:57 AM
#7588
Re: ackerman
Originally posted by Raul Garcia
Dom,
dont expect the world huh! Just kidding..
Ackerman changes. This is what I have been playing with for some time now. I have flipped the rack, and moved the ball stud to the rear hole on the hub. The FARTHER from linear the tie rod from the arm becomes the less ackerman you have. This helps corner speed to a point. The equality of the wheels turning is key. If the link was closer to a linear pint to the suspension arm, you would increase ackerman, this would make your car cut into turns harder, but scrubbing corner speed down because of the ackerman... I hope this helps.
Dom,
dont expect the world huh!
Just kidding..Ackerman changes. This is what I have been playing with for some time now. I have flipped the rack, and moved the ball stud to the rear hole on the hub. The FARTHER from linear the tie rod from the arm becomes the less ackerman you have. This helps corner speed to a point. The equality of the wheels turning is key. If the link was closer to a linear pint to the suspension arm, you would increase ackerman, this would make your car cut into turns harder, but scrubbing corner speed down because of the ackerman... I hope this helps.
03-01-2005, 11:21 AM
#7590
Re: Re: ackerman
Originally posted by Balugz
How about adding spacer under camber link? What is the effect on the car's RC? Tnx.
How about adding spacer under camber link? What is the effect on the car's RC? Tnx.