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Old 11-15-2008, 04:30 AM   #556
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:22 AM   #557
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anybody have HARA's set up?
Oh sure, he posted it just the other day so the competition knows what he is doing! Really now!

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anybody have HARA's set up?
Have you seen the pics on Red RC of Hara's car, there seems to be a hell of a gap between the shock collar and the top of the shock (a lot of thread showing) is it because he has longer shock shafts? different shocks altogether? also it shows that he has around a 1mm of Ackerman, whereas normally we run 4mm. Any thoughts on these items
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:59 AM   #559
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Have you seen the pics on Red RC of Hara's car, there seems to be a hell of a gap between the shock collar and the top of the shock (a lot of thread showing) is it because he has longer shock shafts? different shocks altogether? also it shows that he has around a 1mm of Ackerman, whereas normally we run 4mm. Any thoughts on these items
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Yes , me too i was suprised with the collars , i dont know why he does this but it looks like he has 15 mm ride height with these collars like this
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longer shock shafts won't change that... however shorter srpings would... possible he's not using HPI springs (Xrays or Corrallys maybe?)... then again, how long are the Hara Springs

EDIT - Actually, on second thoughts, they look like Silvers and blues... but being run very much leaned in (hole 1 by the look of it), which could explain the extra distance on the collars. And don't forget, he's running at 6cell weight now...

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Paul is running retro with a 007?
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longer shock shafts won't change that... however shorter srpings would... possible he's not using HPI springs (Xrays or Corrallys maybe?)... then again, how long are the Hara Springs

EDIT - Actually, on second thoughts, they look like Silvers and blues... but being run very much leaned in (hole 1 by the look of it), which could explain the extra distance on the collars. And don't forget, he's running at 6cell weight now...

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yes but + 70 gramme is not going to make a such big difference , i remember using 6 cell + a receiver pack in my cyclone and i didnt have to compresse the collar that much , i think his running shorter springs because when i compressed the springs that much , the coils where very close so im quite sure his using shorter springs
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I don't know why such a gap in the shock collars, but i've noticed that is using the WCE bulkheads and maybe the WCE shock towers that will give a big difference. Just a guess.

Regarding ackerman i think it's because of the high grip there, he do it also on reedy race using 2mm.
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The TOP springs are 23mm long...Losi springs are even shorter.They require settings like the pics to match the longer 25mm springs...Xray,HPI etc for ride height.Maybe those or prototypes?? Similar looking settings on my Cyclone.M
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The only reason is the one that ed pointed out. The shocks are leaned in a lot and the holes on the shock tower are following a radius that is a lot bigger then the shock's length, that's it.
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longer shock shafts won't change that... however shorter srpings would... possible he's not using HPI springs (Xrays or Corrallys maybe?)... then again, how long are the Hara Springs

EDIT - Actually, on second thoughts, they look like Silvers and blues... but being run very much leaned in (hole 1 by the look of it), which could explain the extra distance on the collars. And don't forget, he's running at 6cell weight now...

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The only reason is the one that ed pointed out. The shocks are leaned in a lot and the holes on the shock tower are following a radius that is a lot bigger then the shock's length, that's it.
Hara is completely leaning his front shocks while hirosaka makes it the opposite way (max vertical)? Any explanation?
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Old 11-15-2008, 04:22 PM   #568
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Hara is completely leaning his front shocks while hirosaka makes it the opposite way (max vertical)? Any explanation?
Some like blonds, and some like brunettes....
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guess it proves its not always setup that makes you quick.

One guys A main setup is anothers Z final flop
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Some like blonds, and some like brunettes....
But what if I like Blondes and brunette's....and you forgot about redheads, I'm not fussy

Setups are sometimes a 'personnel preference' thing, remember, you don't know how they have other aspects of their cars setup which may make the effect of the shock position less pronounced than your thinking.

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