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Old 04-30-2010, 01:16 PM   #14281
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In your example you would want to move closer to the 6.0 FDR. When you increase the start rpm you are applying less timing at any rpm lower than your end rpm. *all assuming you have a properly set end rpm.
Thanks. I understood there was less timing but I couldn't put it together in my head if I should then gear up or down to compensate. I might try to add a tick of timing on the motor rather than changing the gearing.
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Old 04-30-2010, 02:05 PM   #14282
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Thanks. That's more like the figure I had in mind. So the statement on this website that no.1 timing adapter retards the timing is misleading, all it does is reduce the timing advance 10 degrees down to say 18-22, yes?
Yes you would in fact be around 18-22 degrees of actual timing on the X-12 with the -10 insert, so that always needs to be taken into account when timing advance and turbo profiles are used.
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Old 04-30-2010, 02:42 PM   #14283
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Any gearing and settings advice on the following track;



It would be on the following layout;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do0FIidbXvs

same queston as skiddins but ill b using a gm13.5 motor

my settings as of now are

version 203
start 4873
end 13996
brake strenth 95
neutral width 5
motor type bl-fl
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turbo delay 2.0
turbo ramp 2.0
gearing 6.0

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I gona start at 5.6, but reckon we will be closer to 5.3ish

You might wana change your motor type to BL-FW though
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Old 04-30-2010, 02:57 PM   #14284
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I gona start at 5.6, but reckon we will be closer to 5.3ish

You might wana change your motor type to BL-FW though
Cheers Malc
ill give that a go only trouble i wont be at the track on the sat so need to test it on sunday moring, wats the difference with the bl-fw to the bl-fl?

thanks .

ps did u find out wat caused ur tekin to blow at southend ?
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ill give that a go only trouble i wont be at the track on the sat so need to test it on sunday moring, wats the difference with the bl-fw to the bl-fl?

thanks .

ps did u find out wat caused ur tekin to blow at southend ?
tbh, im not sure what the difference is, I just know ive always run it in FW lol

I don't really know why it happened, as I ran the same firmware and gearing all day Saturday, and the Duo 2 never came off hotter than 67 degrees. When it let go, there was no sign of it going soft, it just stopped going onto the straight, and was on for A3 when spence temped the motor, it was showing 130 degrees, and the cap had blown off and was no where to be seen, aslo the positive wire had come unsoldered from the RS and the blue wire had come unsoldered from the motor, so there was major failiure, whether it was the Duo2 let go and took the RS or visa versa I guess I will never know
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it didnt look at good sight wen it come off the track as trev found out he burnt his hand on the motor wat did u run the finals then as ur car look slow ?
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Did some playing around on the Hotwire just to see what would happen.

I set it on the following:

Throttle profile: 4
Timing Boost: 50
Turbo Boost: 18
Start RPM: 2721
End RPM: 10001
Turbo Ramp: 3.0

Motor: Novak Ballistic 17.5 with timing advanced full

I put my car on the car stand just to see how the throttle would respond. I pulled the trigger gently and it started sounding like a jet engine within less than a secon I pushed about halfway towards full throttle when all of a sudden pfifff! One of my tires completely blew out! It was a belted 36R and the belt completely ripped clean with the tire and the insert flying 3ft into the air.

I think I'll change the turbo ramp back to 2.0

Just for a learning excercise, can someone critique that set up?
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Old 04-30-2010, 04:56 PM   #14288
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it didnt look at good sight wen it come off the track as trev found out he burnt his hand on the motor wat did u run the finals then as ur car look slow ?
I was loaned a LRP TC esc, and used a GM motor from my wet car from last year lol, I was geared at 4.56 where as I was running 7.29 with RS, funny thing was, I did exactly the same time I did last year in the finals when I won it, and my time would have given me 5th overal in the A this year lol
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The only way for a speedo to take out a motor is if were ran too hot or overtimed.

IF the esc lived through it, the motor was the likely faiulre point. You're lucky, this often results in a esc failure as well.
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Had a guy here do that with v203.. and same thing happened.. only the tire hit him in the forehead.
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Did some playing around on the Hotwire just to see what would happen.

I set it on the following:

Throttle profile: 4
Timing Boost: 50
Turbo Boost: 18
Start RPM: 2721
End RPM: 10001
Turbo Ramp: 3.0

Motor: Novak Ballistic 17.5 with timing advanced full

I put my car on the car stand just to see how the throttle would respond. I pulled the trigger gently and it started sounding like a jet engine within less than a secon I pushed about halfway towards full throttle when all of a sudden pfifff! One of my tires completely blew out! It was a belted 36R and the belt completely ripped clean with the tire and the insert flying 3ft into the air.

I think I'll change the turbo ramp back to 2.0

Just for a learning excercise, can someone critique that set up?

Too much turbo IMHO. If you temping OK, I would reduce your turbo to 5, leave the ramp at three and move your timing up to max. YMMV
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The only way for a speedo to take out a motor is if were ran too hot or overtimed.

IF the esc lived through it, the motor was the likely faiulre point. You're lucky, this often results in a esc failure as well.
Like I said, it DID take the RS, but had run it all day before with NO probs

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Had a guy here do that with v203.. and same thing happened.. only the tire hit him in the forehead.
What's the deal with everyone free reving their junk to the point it nearly explodes?

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Hey Andrew, when you coming back to Jackon, MS (Flowood)? Thanks for your help with the Tekin and the WGT setup. WGT is starting to pickup since that race, we may wind up with a full class today.

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hello there everyone i have just got the rs pro and would like to say very inpressed so for but the brakes are to weak and im losing time so my friends please can somone help thanks
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