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John St.Amant 01-10-2009 02:53 PM

WHATS WITH ALL THE SLOP IN THE UPRIGHTS?
THE BUMPER ISNT VERY TOUGH EITHER.

i am cornholio 01-10-2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by John St.Amant (Post 5275703)
WHATS WITH ALL THE SLOP IN THE UPRIGHTS?
THE BUMPER ISNT VERY TOUGH EITHER.

dude for someone who runs this car you sure have a lot of complaints...:weird:

WEEZY 01-10-2009 06:12 PM

HAHA what up corn. You ready for the birds mayne?? What ever slop no slop car is still bomb. You peeking on the thread shopping for a car? Str8 en out. Give me a call aight late

Canyon 01-10-2009 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by WEEZY (Post 5276188)
HAHA what up corn. You ready for the birds mayne?? What ever slop no slop car is still bomb. You peeking on the thread shopping for a car? Str8 en out. Give me a call aight late

Coopa you're such a gangsta! LOL

John St.Amant 01-11-2009 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by i am cornholio (Post 5275882)
dude for someone who runs this car you sure have a lot of complaints...:weird:

I have owned a lot of cars. Everything from 12th to 8th on and off road.
I have never seen such slop in ANY bearing holder in any location. The big bearings move around in the blocks so much you can not accurately adjust camber. Not only that but the rear toe in is affected greatly and compromises the stability of the car. As of right now I have not found this car competitive on the sticky carpet. All it does is steer way too much and usually spin out. And I do have a clue. Seems to me this cars forte has to be on the pavment. I have still to see a good carpet (one way) set up. The two on the wolf hobbies site dont work at all on my home track. But then again I have had little time to practice with it.

Eddie M 01-11-2009 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by John St.Amant (Post 5278013)
I have owned a lot of cars. Everything from 12th to 8th on and off road.
I have never seen such slop in ANY bearing holder in any location. The big bearings move around in the blocks so much you can not accurately adjust camber. Not only that but the rear toe in is affected greatly and compromises the stability of the car. As of right now I have not found this car competitive on the sticky carpet. All it does is steer way too much and usually spin out. And I do have a clue. Seems to me this cars forte has to be on the pavment. I have still to see a good carpet (one way) set up. The two on the wolf hobbies site dont work at all on my home track. But then again I have had little time to practice with it.

You can always put in some green loctite or thin CA to address the slop. I ran the car as it and I think the car is quite decent even with all the slop.

I guess people are spoil by XRay quality but it does cost a fortune to get one new. I remember the good old TC3 are quite sloppy back then and yet they are still very competitive.

i am cornholio 01-11-2009 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by John St.Amant (Post 5278013)
I have owned a lot of cars. Everything from 12th to 8th on and off road.
I have never seen such slop in ANY bearing holder in any location. The big bearings move around in the blocks so much you can not accurately adjust camber. Not only that but the rear toe in is affected greatly and compromises the stability of the car. As of right now I have not found this car competitive on the sticky carpet. All it does is steer way too much and usually spin out. And I do have a clue. Seems to me this cars forte has to be on the pavment. I have still to see a good carpet (one way) set up. The two on the wolf hobbies site dont work at all on my home track. But then again I have had little time to practice with it.

stiffen up the front end or raise the arm mounts in front..add a little more rear toe..as for the bearing slop..a little drop of ca will take care of that..or you could try the aluminum steering blocks and hubs..i will say the potential of this car is very high..and yes weezy im very interested..after snowbirds though

katfish317 01-11-2009 10:20 PM

I tried the carpet setup myself yesterday, it was my first ever time running rubber tires on carpet and it was not very good there either. We moved the shocks all the way in, moved the camber links too the inside hole front and rear, and added 2mm shim at the rear ballstud. It worked pretty well for me but as the tires got up too temp during the race the last two minutes ot got loose. You might try running less camber in the front and put another half degree in the rear.
Of course I am running the factory springs right now as I have no others, gotta place an orer for parts soon.
Over all the steering and handling of the car too me is great, just need some setup work!!!!

katfish317 01-11-2009 10:26 PM

Also, what are people doing ot loosen the drive train in this car??? I have the Kfactory belts, and have changed all the midshaft and mainshaft bearings to ceramics. All the wheel bearings have been changed to Avid rc revolution bearings. I have not changed the diff bearings as of yet as the first order they were not in stock, but I ordered some tonight and hopefully that should do it.
My other car a TC5, that I raced last year is very free. You can spin the tires by hand even with a brushless motor and they freewheel a while. This car does not do it yet but hopefully changing the diff bearings will help free it up.
Thanks for any info!
Tim

mild seven 01-11-2009 10:37 PM

I found the drive train to be very smooth. Dosnt feel very free but i think thats the way it is, maybe because of the 3 belts. I Have ran the car in mod for about 7-8 runs now.

WEEZY 01-11-2009 10:42 PM

I also ran the tc5 before this car and the drivetrain was pretty good. Are you running on carpet? I took the seals off my carpet car and soaked the bearings in motor spray in a little jar. Got all the grease out of them. Then i just re-oiled them with a bearing oil. It helped alot with the drive train. I am using stock belts and bearings and my car spins pretty smoothly.

milton6599 01-12-2009 07:39 AM

What's up guys!

What's is the best set-up for the spur and pinion gear on carpet? I'm running a E4 FS with rubber,Tekin RS 17.5, LiPo.

eddie10 01-12-2009 11:22 AM

is there a trick to getting a brushless motor in and out. im usng a tekin and a orion and have to remove belt tensioner and mount?

John St.Amant 01-12-2009 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by milton6599 (Post 5282241)
What's up guys!

What's is the best set-up for the spur and pinion gear on carpet? I'm running a E4 FS with rubber,Tekin RS 17.5, LiPo.

How big is the track? Is it fast and swoopy or all turns?
go to
http://www.gearchart.com/index.cfm?f...n=chart.create
you need to know your internal ratio. if its the same as mine it's 2.0588
I'd start around 4.2 if its a small track. Use no more than 152 teeth and no less than 145 teeth combined and you will find a sweet spot for your track.
Good luck man!

milton6599 01-12-2009 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by John St.Amant (Post 5282902)
How big is the track? Is it fast and swoopy or all turns?
go to
http://www.gearchart.com/index.cfm?f...n=chart.create
you need to know your internal ratio. if its the same as mine it's 2.0588
I'd start around 4.2 if its a small track. Use no more than 152 teeth and no less than 145 teeth combined and you will find a sweet spot for your track.
Good luck man!

Thanks I'll check it out. Right now I'm running a 51 pin, 88 spur.
I race at " The Track"
I say it's fast and swoopy.

What do you use for the springs??


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