2008 Roar onroad carpet nats
02-29-2008, 07:30 AM
#556
02-29-2008, 07:50 AM
#557
So the LRP X-11 10.5 stock spec motor is legal for super stock right!
02-29-2008, 08:01 AM
#558
Modified Novak Novak 1050 Teardown, bare A1 can ends, purple band 3/28/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Brushless N.E.O. 1 gray can, black end caps, VTEC 9/19/2005
Modified Novak Novak Velociti bare A1 can ends, purple bands 9/19/2005
Modified Associated/Reedy LRP Vector X11 Brushless w/bonded or sintered rotor 7/1/2007
Modified Orion Orion Vortex Brushless w/sintered motor 7/1/2007
Modified Novak Novak 3410SS 10.5 Pro 2/5/2008
Modified Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Schumacher USA Speed Passion Speed Passion Comp Series 13835 (any wind) 2/25/2008
Modified Trinity Trinity TRI102xx 2/27/2008
Stock Novak Novak 3417SS 17.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 17.5T *2/27/2008*
Stock Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E-40 17.5T *2/27/2008*
Super Stock Hacker Brushless USA Hacker E40-13.5 T *2/28/2008*
Super Stock Novak Novak 3413SS 13.5 Pro *2/15/2008*
Super Stock LRP LRP Vector X11 Stockspec 13.5T *2/27/2008*
02-29-2008, 08:06 AM
#559
Per the 2008 nationals rules and nationals guidelines, Super Stock class may have no lower in wind than 10.5 for competition in 2008. And, 19T brushed motors can be used in the Super Stock class.
For 2009 and beyond, the Super Stock class is 13.5 only, no brushed.
The list reflects 10.5 as modified as those motors fall under the modified rules and specifications. ROAR is allowing 10.5 in the super stock class this year only as a transition into brushless motors into this class only.
Kyle is right, as long as their is a modified counterpart on the list from a MFG, the 10.5 is legal. Although, to ensure everybody understands this, we are requesting 10.5's be submitted so we are able to data log the inductance readings and post them on the list to avoid confusion.
(looks like we failed the no confusion part... LOL)
For 2009 and beyond, the Super Stock class is 13.5 only, no brushed.
The list reflects 10.5 as modified as those motors fall under the modified rules and specifications. ROAR is allowing 10.5 in the super stock class this year only as a transition into brushless motors into this class only.
Kyle is right, as long as their is a modified counterpart on the list from a MFG, the 10.5 is legal. Although, to ensure everybody understands this, we are requesting 10.5's be submitted so we are able to data log the inductance readings and post them on the list to avoid confusion.
(looks like we failed the no confusion part... LOL)
02-29-2008, 08:16 AM
#560
Tech Regular
If the manufacture sent a 10.5 wind in for inspection it will be legal for there is a MOD motor listed.
02-29-2008, 08:17 AM
#561
02-29-2008, 08:55 AM
#563
LRP sent in a 10.5 for induction readings and we are still working to update our list today. All motors available for use at the Carpet Nats must be on the list no later than today.
So..... if you don't see it tomorrow.. then, I guess we'll have to figure out what your asking...
for now, I'm trying very hard to update the lipo list and the BL motor list. Also, verifying documentation of availability as per our rules. Not trying to avoid answering your question.
02-29-2008, 04:36 PM
#564
The lithium battery approval list will be posted by the end of the day today with all the batteries submitted and approved for ROAR competition. Also, we have finalized the BL motor list and that will be updated later today.
I have received several questions regarding not seeing 10.5on the approval list.
10.5's are actually modified motors and are approved as such per our rules. In 2008, ROAR has deemed super stock competition with as low as 10.5 winds and 19T brushed motors. This gives the racer choices of what brushless motor they want to use... 13.5, 10.5 or whatever or 19T brushed, ROAR Approved motors.
2009, as per the rule book, super stock will be 13.5 Brushless motors only, no brushed motors. This gives racers a full year to make the transition to brushless only in the super stock class.
I have received several questions regarding not seeing 10.5on the approval list.
10.5's are actually modified motors and are approved as such per our rules. In 2008, ROAR has deemed super stock competition with as low as 10.5 winds and 19T brushed motors. This gives the racer choices of what brushless motor they want to use... 13.5, 10.5 or whatever or 19T brushed, ROAR Approved motors.
2009, as per the rule book, super stock will be 13.5 Brushless motors only, no brushed motors. This gives racers a full year to make the transition to brushless only in the super stock class.
02-29-2008, 05:11 PM
#566
02-29-2008, 06:11 PM
#567
ROAR Approved Lithium Technology Batteries List
All currently approved Lithium Technology batteries are included in the table below
TYPE DESCRIPTION PART NUMBER APPROVAL DATE
Li - Poly TrakPower 4900 25C 7.4 LiPo TP49002S 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Core 7.4V 3250 MAH LIPO PACK CR034 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Core 7.4V 5000 MAH LIPO PACK CR004 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Losi 7.4V 5000 MAH 2 Cell LIPO 20c LOSB9861 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Reedy LIPO 5000mAh PRO 703 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Reedy LIPO 5000mAh 704 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Reedy LIPO 3200mAh PRO 705 2/28/2008
Li - Poly SMC 5000 mAh NA 2/28/2008
Li - Poly SMC 4000 mAh NA 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Orion Platinum Edition 4800 ORI 14000 2/6/2008
Li - Poly Orion Carbon Edition 3200 ORI 14001 2/6/2008
Li - Poly Orion 3600 Race Spec ORI 14005 2/6/2008
Li - Poly Hobbico Team Checkpoint 5400 TCPC3656 2/4/2008
All currently approved Lithium Technology batteries are included in the table below
TYPE DESCRIPTION PART NUMBER APPROVAL DATE
Li - Poly TrakPower 4900 25C 7.4 LiPo TP49002S 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Core 7.4V 3250 MAH LIPO PACK CR034 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Core 7.4V 5000 MAH LIPO PACK CR004 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Losi 7.4V 5000 MAH 2 Cell LIPO 20c LOSB9861 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Reedy LIPO 5000mAh PRO 703 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Reedy LIPO 5000mAh 704 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Reedy LIPO 3200mAh PRO 705 2/28/2008
Li - Poly SMC 5000 mAh NA 2/28/2008
Li - Poly SMC 4000 mAh NA 2/28/2008
Li - Poly Orion Platinum Edition 4800 ORI 14000 2/6/2008
Li - Poly Orion Carbon Edition 3200 ORI 14001 2/6/2008
Li - Poly Orion 3600 Race Spec ORI 14005 2/6/2008
Li - Poly Hobbico Team Checkpoint 5400 TCPC3656 2/4/2008
02-29-2008, 07:36 PM
#568
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i really just want to step back and commend the job that dawn and the entire roar team has done in order to bring some sanity into the necessary chaos that came with adopting brushless and lipo technology
. never before has roar taken such dramatic steps in order to keep up with the rapidly evolving market, and with such little time to do it in.* reguardless of how much complaining there is
, the true fact is that this is the first sell out for nats in a while, and that is proof positive that roar is moving in the right direction
, both with the approval of lipo/brushless, and the awarding of the nats to such a great facility.thank you.
. never before has roar taken such dramatic steps in order to keep up with the rapidly evolving market, and with such little time to do it in.* reguardless of how much complaining there is, the true fact is that this is the first sell out for nats in a while, and that is proof positive that roar is moving in the right direction, both with the approval of lipo/brushless, and the awarding of the nats to such a great facility.thank you.
02-29-2008, 08:35 PM
#569
i really just want to step back and commend the job that dawn and the entire roar team has done in order to bring some sanity into the necessary chaos that came with adopting brushless and lipo technology. never before has roar taken such dramatic steps in order to keep up with the rapidly evolving market, and with such little time to do it in.* reguardless of how much complaining there is, the true fact is that this is the first sell out for nats in a while, and that is proof positive that roar is moving in the right direction, both with the approval of lipo/brushless, and the awarding of the nats to such a great facility.thank you.
. never before has roar taken such dramatic steps in order to keep up with the rapidly evolving market, and with such little time to do it in.* reguardless of how much complaining there is, the true fact is that this is the first sell out for nats in a while, and that is proof positive that roar is moving in the right direction, both with the approval of lipo/brushless, and the awarding of the nats to such a great facility.thank you.Can't wait to see everyone here....!
One more thing.....
ARE YOU READY TO ROCK???
02-29-2008, 08:57 PM
#570
Dawn, thanks for all your help and hard work and putting up with us winey racers!