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Originally Posted by monkeyracing
(Post 5826028)
I think it's just the bodyshells that are the talking point. They are very nice. I wouldn't run one myself, though. Our racing is fair too brutal to subject something that nice to.
There seems to be a battle brewing between HPI and Tamiya right now. HPI just beat Tamiya to the punch. They've introduced their new mini, cup and F1 racers to the market before Tamiya could, and now the big T is playing catchup. I think Tamiya will probably come out on top in the long run. They've got deeper roots in the market than anyone else. Jim |
Originally Posted by tony gray
(Post 5825980)
I must admit, I'm bewildered as to the huge fuss that people are making over the Cup Racer anyway. It's just another 4WD Mini chassis. Sure the bodyshells are cool, but the chassis itself isn't all that exciting. :rolleyes:
Tamiya makes them scale looking, scale function(scale drive train) and tough as steel! |
This is the actual production version of the Team Atlas Beat ISW.
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...ini/Beat02.jpg Quite why anyone would buy a Cup Racer when you can get something like this is beyond me. Simple design, clean, and just flat-out awesome. |
Originally Posted by tony gray
(Post 5828610)
This is the actual production version of the Team Atlas Beat ISW.
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...ini/Beat02.jpg Quite why anyone would buy a Cup Racer when you can get something like this is beyond me. Simple design, clean, and just flat-out awesome. Frankly the design is the same for all the cars. Just shrunken 10th scale TCs. |
Originally Posted by tiko
(Post 5823010)
Well Granpa, first and foremost thanks for replying to my post. Let’s start with the track surface, carpet and asphalt. These are the two surfaces that I’m planning to race on as soon as I can get all my things together.
As for the inserts I have the Muchmore pinks and the Tamiya mini gray foams. Also when you say Muchmore on the outside and the Tamiya inside as a starting point do you mean doubling both of these inserts together? Thanks Tiko I'm strictly an asphalt racer. Know diddly-squat about carpet. However, there will be a carpet track opening here so I'm looking forward to that. I suspect that the 55mm tires stuffed hard might be an answer, but will have to bow to experienced carpet racers like Jim,aka Monkeyracing. |
Originally Posted by tony gray
(Post 5828610)
This is the actual production version of the Team Atlas Beat ISW.
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/p...ini/Beat02.jpg Quite why anyone would buy a Cup Racer when you can get something like this is beyond me. Simple design, clean, and just flat-out awesome. |
Originally Posted by iti20090
(Post 5826215)
Hi Tony
It would be useful to update the list for the outside diameters as well. The nature of our local tracks makes the extra legs of the 60D tyres a must and I have long trolled the net for a 60D alternative to the Tamiya 60D, without success, maybe because that specification is not always mentioned. Kind regards Dave |
Originally Posted by Granpa
(Post 5829475)
That's right. Put the cut insert in the tire and and then lay the foam in. After inserting the wheel, you'll be able to judge whether that's the firmness you want. Generally, the longer the insert, the firmer the tire will be.
I'm strictly an asphalt racer. Know diddly-squat about carpet. However, there will be a carpet track opening here so I'm looking forward to that. I suspect that the 55mm tires stuffed hard might be an answer, but will have to bow to experienced carpet racers like Jim,aka Monkeyracing. |
I think the Cup Racer has been selling like hot cakes because of the
1. adjustable wheelbase 2. neat variable battery holder gimmick 3. those datsun shells! 4. Hara going round beating people with his Cup Racer but ya, mostly, it was because of the Datsun shells. I almost got one myself but it was a lot of money for a mid-range car, so I got an ABC Genetic instead. If I had more sense, I would have just gotten back into 2WD and kept my M03. Haha. |
Originally Posted by Granpa
(Post 5829475)
That's right. Put the cut insert in the tire and and then lay the foam in. After inserting the wheel, you'll be able to judge whether that's the firmness you want. Generally, the longer the insert, the firmer the tire will be.
... I will be racing on an asfalt track soon, in stead of the carpet races we usually drive with our Mini's, so I'm most interested. Also, as we can only use Tamiya-tyres, I guess I should go for the A-type mini-tires? |
[QUOTE=sim600;5830655]I think the Cup Racer has been selling like hot cakes because of the
1. adjustable wheelbase 2. neat variable battery holder gimmick 3. those datsun shells! 4. Hara going round beating people with his Cup Racer but ya, mostly, it was because of the Datsun shells. QUOTE] My guess would be availability, because HPI has a readily established dealernetwork all around the world. All the other manufacturers of mini 4wd's don't! |
Originally Posted by sim600
(Post 5830655)
I think the Cup Racer has been selling like hot cakes because of the
1. adjustable wheelbase 2. neat variable battery holder gimmick 3. those datsun shells! 4. Hara going round beating people with his Cup Racer but ya, mostly, it was because of the Datsun shells. I almost got one myself but it was a lot of money for a mid-range car, so I got an ABC Genetic instead. If I had more sense, I would have just gotten back into 2WD and kept my M03. Haha. |
Originally Posted by Low_E
(Post 5831457)
may I ask what the benefits are of a harder tire?
I will be racing on an asfalt track soon, in stead of the carpet races we usually drive with our Mini's, so I'm most interested. Also, as we can only use Tamiya-tyres, I guess I should go for the A-type mini-tires? Type A's are ok...but they are compromised on turn-in. I'd be inclined to lean toward S grips myself... |
Originally Posted by sim600
(Post 5830655)
I think the Cup Racer has been selling like hot cakes because of the
1. adjustable wheelbase 2. neat variable battery holder gimmick 3. those datsun shells! 4. Hara going round beating people with his Cup Racer but ya, mostly, it was because of the Datsun shells. I almost got one myself but it was a lot of money for a mid-range car, so I got an ABC Genetic instead. If I had more sense, I would have just gotten back into 2WD and kept my M03. Haha. http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...cup-racer.html ...and judging by the numerous posts in that thread of people having to... shim this, cut that, droop this, change that screw out, smooth out that bearing seat, use F201 springs, degrease the kit's bearings, swap out the thrust assembly with a spare Tamiya one and shaving off suspension arms, among other fixes too numerous to mention... ...the Cup Racer sounds like too much trouble. It convinced me to buy the new Tamiya M05 chassis when it comes out. :lol: |
Originally Posted by Low_E
(Post 5831457)
may I ask what the benefits are of a harder tire?
I will be racing on an asfalt track soon, in stead of the carpet races we usually drive with our Mini's, so I'm most interested. Also, as we can only use Tamiya-tyres, I guess I should go for the A-type mini-tires? Most of us around here have given up on the new generation 60d slicks or the A type for rear tires and only use them in the front under certain track conditions. S-grips seem to be the tire of choice except for the few who have the old cpd 60d slicks. Even those guys use them on the rear and use a soft S-grip in front. |
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