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Old 02-24-2009, 02:00 AM
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Can anyone point me in the right direction for a cheap deal on a 416?

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rcchamp was the best before the currencies went tits up, so I guess it depends how the pound is faring against the yen
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Old 02-24-2009, 03:15 AM
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416 rear belt tensioner for extend center pulley and rear belt's life
How the heck did you get the weights on your chassis to look like CF???
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Originally Posted by Ricky/C View Post
How the heck did you get the weights on your chassis to look like CF???
CF look adhesive tape is my take...
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Old 02-24-2009, 04:56 AM
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Hi guys! can anyone tell me where can i find Tamiya TRF416WE picture? and what is the different between standard 416 & 416WE? thanks a lot guys!!! cheers...
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Hi guys! can anyone tell me where can i find Tamiya TRF416WE picture? and what is the different between standard 416 & 416WE? thanks a lot guys!!! cheers...
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:08 AM
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How about the difference in terms of performance between a 416 vs 416we?

Any1 can share his views or findings?

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Old 02-24-2009, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jonest View Post
How about the difference in terms of performance between a 416 vs 416we?

Any1 can share his views or findings?

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Honestly ... the weight distribution is a little better . As far as my 4 scales can tell. Other than the new car being fresh... Not a whole lot. They sat the New upper deck makes more rear traction , but I think thats more about the 3.5 degrees of toe in in the rear. I kinda did a twist test and an A/B comparison. As far as racing goes ... I think not many people could tell the difference if they drove them one after the other.
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by John St.Amant View Post
Honestly ... the weight distribution is a little better . As far as my 4 scales can tell. Other than the new car being fresh... Not a whole lot. They sat the New upper deck makes more rear traction , but I think thats more about the 3.5 degrees of toe in in the rear. I kinda did a twist test and an A/B comparison. As far as racing goes ... I think not many people could tell the difference if they drove them one after the other.
3.5 rear toe...... Why so much? Does the car need rear bite that bad?
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3.5 rear toe...... Why so much? Does the car need rear bite that bad?
More intial turn in, and increased weight transfer to the front off power/on the brakes since it creates a little more drag in the car. Then when you get on the throttle you have lots and lots of forward grip. It's something I was baffled about when a lot of guys went to 3 deg of rear toe on carpet with foam tires untill I tried it in mod. When the rest of the car is setup properly, it works really well.

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Old 02-24-2009, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Korey Harbke View Post
More intial turn in, and increased weight transfer to the front off power/on the brakes since it creates a little more drag in the car. Then when you get on the throttle you have lots and lots of forward grip. It's something I was baffled about when a lot of guys went to 3 deg of rear toe on carpet with foam tires untill I tried it in mod. When the rest of the car is setup properly, it works really well.

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Outdoors ok... but on high bite carpet ... its too much toe.. too much drag. 3 is fine .
I ended up putting in both one ways as well. Car works great now. everything else is in kit form.
Otherwise the car would take forever to get thru the middle of the corner.... Oh yeah , I took 1mm out of the ackermen spacers too.
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When throttle, the car tends to swirl to one side, left if not wrong.... is it because the car is not balanced?

And I'm using front D/D, should I swap to C/C if track is smaller?

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Originally Posted by jonest View Post
When throttle, the car tends to swirl to one side, left if not wrong.... is it because the car is not balanced?

And I'm using front D/D, should I swap to C/C if track is smaller?

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Thats deffinately a possibility . But I would check the droop in the front.
I bet one arm is lower than the other.
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Does anyone have a good tool to check the left to right balance of a chassis? I remember seeing one my MuchMore or Hudy but can't seem to find it now.
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Does anyone have a good tool to check the left to right balance of a chassis? I remember seeing one my MuchMore or Hudy but can't seem to find it now.
Ok.. heres my $0.02 worth on that .
I've seen a half ball with a wire in it for balancing.
It looks like it works great! But....
For the money , Harbor Freight has a 0.1 increment up to 500 grams scale for $10 I got 4 of them. Theres even a little indentation in the middle so your drugs...I mean wheels find the center nicely. With 4 of them on a flat surface you can check weight distribution front to rear, left to right , and even check cross jack if you think its necessary. If you can get about 360 grams on every corner you are in like Flint!

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